Hi!
How to connect tools like MCCGenerator or MMM to other instrument?
Anyone know? Is it even possible?
this video might be overkill but should cover sending midi from an instrument to another.
Well, sending MIDI notes is not what I am asking for.
I am talking about sending CC parameters, not notes.
Renoise can send MIDI notes to any instrument, I know that. But CC parameters are sending without note trigger.
I was wrote about “MCCGenerator” or “MMM” for a reason.
I have never heard of MCCGenerator and I don’t know what MMM is. But the links below should probably help you further.
https://tutorials.renoise.com/wiki/MIDI
https://tutorials.renoise.com/wiki/Meta_Devices
Would help if someone already try it.
This is MMM: MMM
And this is MCCGenerator: MCCGenerator | MeldaProduction
Soon it will be one year and I still get no answer, no matter on forum on email support. 
Is it even possible to do stuff like this in Renoise?
Perhaps if you could rephrase somehow, what is the end goal exactly?
Renoise instruments can receive values on a MIDI CC number, and
with MIDI Learn other things can recieve MIDI CC values as well.
Hth
Well, all informations needed for answer (for someone who knows tools like MCCGenerator) I already wrote. I asked how to connect this plugin (or alternative one) with ANYTHING in Renoise - how to send CC info to instrument (other than by internal MIDI Controller). These plugins are made especially for that purpose.
I think if someone never try this, then even with best explanation will not know a solution.
Here you have description. I already paste this link in my previous post.
Since I can’t send anything from this FX plugin to instrument (or can I?) I cannot control instrument CC parameteres by this plugin.
I can use it in KV Element for example, when I connect it with instrument, but not directly in Renoise. Looks like there is no option to send anything from FX plugin to Instrument section. Of course I tried alias, but there is no output in alias either that I can connect to anything.
Some generators (like arp plugins) have option to connect them to selected instrument, but only when they’re instruments, not as fx plugin.
I think if you want to help, I’ll be happy. All I need is some example xrns with MCCGenerator that works. It would be much faster than explaining this over and over and discuss about theory.
Tried, failed… sadly.
Unable to find a way to select a MIDI device in MCCGenerator:
Seems to be something Melda could implement but has not; otw selecting LoopMIDI should work here.
Exa: In renoise I can select the Input/Output MIDI Controller (not talking about Control Change aka CC).
It’s not Melda problem. It’s Renoise problem - there is no output from FX. In much more crappy FL every FX or instrument can be connected to another and send informations.
I tried all that input/output MIDI, using MCCGenerator as alias (so it is “instrument” somehow), but nothing really works. Sure - debug is showing everything, but plugins do not see it.
The only way, for now, is to use KV Element for that.
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Melda can certainly fix this by implementing a more robust midi implementation that let’s you select a controller. I’d take it up with them or otherwise look for a more complete program with similar functionality.
Unfortunately - I know only two - MMM and MCCGenerator. Both works the same way - so not working in Renoise.
I think in many cases problem is on plugin developer’s side, but not this time. It sends CC commands to its output, but you don’t have proper connections in Renoise to use it.
Not only that type of plugins - some instruments have input signal too alongside normal MIDI input and can use it as a modulator. And the same - you have no option to send any signal to that type of plugins. So even if I like Renoise and probably will use it for long time, I am not some person who want to say that it’s perfect software and whole world must adjust their work to this DAW. In this case it’s opposite.
This program has similar functionality, and a fuller implementation, and is working in Renoise too:
Hth
Ah, I tested it. But is quite expensive for my needs in this matter.
I could spend some money (I have some expensive synths), but not when I want to use it once per year maybe.
And this do not solve problem with plugins that have different inputs that Renoise can’t handle.