Mick Rippon Trance (would Love Comments!)

http://www.mickrippon.com/temp/mr_colourof…lovepreview.wma

A little something I wrote today in about 6 hours (on and off). I’m fatigued in every way imaginable, so there wasn’t much thinking involved. Just hard, fast and cruisy tracking.

The vocals were assembled nearly from scratch, using a bit of tuning and buggering around.

No real serious attempt at mastering, final mix was EQed and compressed a bit.

What genre is this? Any ideas? This is very different to the style I tend to do.

C´mon! you must tell me how to do that vocoder vocals! :D :D

The style is toooooooo happy for me, even being myself a happy guy.
I ALWAYS loved vocals like that.

The criticism:

Why not detune the oscillators a bit for getting synths less happy and more fat?
Why not use a “punchier” drum sample ?

I think the main sound lead can be something better, pick a good eq, hands to the synth and get into the Knobs! :)

EDIT: excelent trick in 3:34 with filters

mick!

you know i love you… very much!
but this is aweful.

:)

.x

really not my style…so I won’t criticize as I will probably never do anything similar let alone better…

instead I’ll say that the minimal tune that kicks off just under 1 minute is really nice…sweet and cheerful without being candy-raver-puke-worthy…although having said that something about where it leads from there once everything kicks back in just doesnt do it for me. No real reason I can think of though, sorry I cant be much more help :(

So, I’ll give the same advice I always give (boris, this ones for you), scrap everything except the minescule bit that I like and rebuild around that from scratch without referring to anything else you’ve done with it, then give it to me to remix so I can take the derivative of that and turn it into something completely contradictory to the original track :D :P

Oh man, what are you doing?

This is a sleepy cheesy thing with horrible acid part and awful vocals, but the lead COULD work on something totally different tho.

Sorry man, but nope. I’ve always said you’re good, but to put it as friendly as possible:
this is crap!

Peace. :D

edit.
Oh, and this is a good example of why everybody should post their music here, we tell you when you’re on to something and when you’re definetly off. ;)

Warning taken for granted… the song has been taken offline

My attempt at dmmph-dmpph-cheese kinda failed, but definately not taken to heart :P My personal taste is so very very different to this, and it showed. I don’t feel bad that I failed. It was worth the spanking from Xerxes.

That melody/chord progression (at the end) has some potential though somewhere - I’ll stick by that. But yeah, after reading the feedback, it appears that I should perhaps stick to styles I like. Or at least factor more of my personal taste into things, which I didn’t do. - a lesson to be learnt!

Thanks all for your honesty. I will refrain from cheesy-doomph-doomh in the future. :)

Or just do this in your own style.

this doesn’t really feel like trance to me. reminds me actually of a couple of songs from orbital’s altogether album.

I must enforce this although it has lots reverb on pads and that ‘daft punk’ vocal.

don’t think it’s crap yourself, it has many good aspects.
i think it’s just between the taste of many people.
who decides anyway…

The more and more I hear it the more I think of orbital.

yeh… I like it a bit, but it’s going into the void now.

I can’t even download it and I really would like to hear it, since I’m already in love with your “Retro Winter”.

You can always try
http://www.mickrippon.com/

thanks, I tried…awesome guitar tunes! (I wish I was that good) Still didn’t find the trance song though…

My stupid bloody ISP keeps deleting all multimedia content from my webspace! Something about copyright issues. They even deleted xerxes_naked*.jpg!

@ Gilli, I’ll put it on mickrippon.com, and re-update this post when it’s up. Prepare to be dissappointed though. :(

update: URL at the top is a little more stable. Won’t dissapear in a hurry.

:panic:

Well, it’s not trance, it’s just some hybrid form of game and dance in a wrong way.
Strip the cute contents and don’t use rave-samples as a background support sound. And no slow bleep blop sounds (they make the song sound like a Swedish person speaking english with a very strong native accent and intonation).

The vocals are usable the the chord-scheme as well, just needs a different approach that’s all.

I finally heard it!
The chord progression is rather something ‘new’ to the dance/trance style for me. I got used to it while I was listening. I’d love to hear some bridge in the song with different (but harmonic) chord progressions. I suppose you’re a master at doing this anyways. ;)
The saw melody should be more aggressive (typical supersaws would probably make the song fit more to the dance/trance cliche).
I you like to fiddle around with the bassdrum cutoff, take some more elements into the filter (e.g. snaredrum) to make the filter noteable.
As Klez said, the bd might need to punch a bit more as for the highs. I’d generally boost them a bit around 8 to 16 khz and use typicall 909 hats.
Right now it sounds like the first sony music recordings (snap, n-trance…).
I think ciccilleju could have a thousand ideas how to turn this song into a gigi d’agostino-like track. I think that fits best to the vocoder melody. :)

That said…I didn’t even know that “Mick Rippon” is one of those old daddies from the scene until yestarday or something :). So all my opinions about the song come with the awareness that the composer is no beginner. And no - I’m not disappointed. I just think that there was some room left for a few ideas about your song which doesn’t make it entirely bad.

I especially enjoyed the melody that starts at 1:39 min.

Like others, I am not a fan of this style of music.

Concerning the last comment, who cares what I or anyone else here listens to? The moment I see that comment I know not to take that person’s critique seriously.

This forum is a great place to share music, but I think many of the reviews and or comments I see are questionable.

Instead of attacking the style or the genre, people I think should be more open minded and look at the bigger picture.

I gathered from your post that your songs are typically much different. I applaud you for doing something different and this song could be a stepping stone to something amazing; especially with your talent.

Renoise users definitely have to be thick skinned posting material here. If I took to heart some of the comments I have recieved I would have given up a long time ago.

Thankfully I dismiss comments from individuals who don’t appreciate the genre and or fit into my target audience so there opinion is meaningless.

When I see a post that is something along the lines of “…I don’t like that style of music” it smells and looks like spam. Why even post?

If I was reading a review of Marilyn Mason written by someone who ONLY listens to Classical and feels MM’s music is rubbish, would I value their opinion?

Something for everyone to hopefully consider…