The manual reads: “The MIDI Clock master sends a series of 24 ppqn (pulses per quarter note) beat clock messages to all slaves.”
But one of my slaves can only be set at settings between 48 and 960 PPQN.
What is the problem?
My triplets are not triplets anymore but something irregular.
Is there a reason there is no way to manually set the PPQN for the Renoise MIDI Clock master?
Or is it just not implemented (yet)?
I’m not sure the problem would be solved, if it could be set so both have the same PPQN, but I wonder why it is a fixed PPQN, knowing that a mismatch can cause problems.
I’m tracking a mono synth with overdubbing.
I sequence in Renoise, connect renoise through midi to Cakewalk.
As an experiment I try to also record the MIDI notes to Cakewalk. But Cakewalk is messing the triplets in some way.
(I’m experimenting to mould music as a lump of clay, combining the ultra controllable aspects of sequencing with the difficult to predict results of improvisations and live recording and overdubbing.)
Audio drivers do everything right, the only issue is with MIDI. What is sent out, is not the same as what is recorded. When driving the synth straight from the Renoise sequence, everything is fine. When driving the synth with the recorded MIDI notes from Renoise in Cakewalk, timing is messed up (opening the piano roll also confirms the triplets are not regular, guess these piano rolls at least serve one purpose, after all…)
I wanted to see if setting the PPQN equal for both would solve the problem. (My synth can be adjusted and recommends it in case of MIDI timing issues, as it also has a built in sequencer.) But I can only set Cakewalk, and it starts at 48PPQN.
I tried the same at 48 & 960 PPQN (min. & max.) result is the same.
It is not a matter of life and death (I even wonder myself why I’d need to have a copy of the renoise sequence in cakewalk, but something tells me I can do funny things with it at some point.)
Audio syncs fine between Renoise & Cakewalk using the MIDI clock. (But audio isn’t subject to the quantum in the same way…)
Hello @eretsua
-The synth is a Moog Grandmother
-I use the DIN cable for midi (interface is Motu Ultralite Mk5) to the synth / I use a Virtual MIDI connection from Renoise to Cakewalk (Bome MIDI Translator Pro)
-BPM is 90
-Straight from Renoise the synth is 100% OK, only the recording of midi notes to cakewalk goes wrong. Triplets sound exactly like triplets
-I never sequence in Cakewalk, but the recording from the renoise sequence (which has messed up timing, visible in piano roll) does drive the synth according to what was recorded (with the messed up timing, as visible)
@fumesek
The master clock is renoise, and seem to work fine otherwise.
Only that Renoise is at 24PPQN & Cakewalk minimal 48PPQN might (or might not) be a problem (according my limited knowledge, that is.)
The other possibility is of course… Cakewalk maybe can’t handle triplets properly?
Renoise seems to be fine, maybe apart from no possibility to change PPQN.
As Cakewalk is on the receiving part, maybe the problem is there. (I maybe should try MOTU performer to do the same and see.)
Nevermind this deleted message …(I thought quantize was on by default in Cakewalk, but it wasn’t, although it might be worth trying to enable it on the right setting.)
Hmm, that’s a though one.There no obvious red flags in the things you mentioned. Which is good but it also means I don’t immediately see a solution, no.
Just as a test, maybe you can try recording the midi into Reaper? See if it has the same problems. Try to narrow it down.
You probably know this, but just in case: You can try Reaper for free. After the demo expired it just gets a nag screen but if fully functional otherwise.