Oh come on, now your are just trolling! You know exactly that it is not possible in Renoise to input into several tracks simultaneously! I actually said it before, the problem could be either fixed by the input OR the output routing (so don’t tell me I confuse them with each other). So what do you think serious DAW-users and producers do? Do you think they first play and record the kick drum, then in the next take they record only the low tom, then the mid tom and so on? Because if this is the case, then you are right, I wasn’t aware at all that this is how the pros do it and I apologize! But in that case, I just don’t want to do it like the pros
But on a more serious note: You do understand the issue at hand, right? (I am not sure you do, especially when you start talking about the limitations of MIDI…) I mean I appreciate that you don’t care for that functionality, but you should at least be able to see the usage (and you should also be aware that this is the way practically all other DAWs work).
Ah, separating the pattern editor’s tracks, from the dsp routing and a tracks input method.
In many ways I would like to see the dsp routing join with the actual instrument also, be it vst or sampler instrument.
Association of many effects commands in the pattern editor could also be instrument specific, instead of the current track only specific implementation.
While having the instrument tied to the dsp routing directly, we would still need the track effects along with this, as some effects commands are track specific.
This is pretty big, as the current pattern input method for the pattern editor is track specific, it’s why we can’t record multiple MIDI-IN’s in real-time.
+1 I enjoy OP’s idea, I don’t know if it could be as simple as previously stated, but I see the merit.
btw, i’ve never sayed that it’s a “problem” placing my kiks, hats, chords etc on their respective tracks, … (that’s what i do since my first e-mu with cubase on atari, i was discovering the “more than 4 traks limitation of the amiga”, and later in logic… ) so once again, thank you
i just suggest. so please keep your “user problem” for you…
i think you consider my request like some kind of critic about renoise… not at all, but i still can’t understand why refusing a simple “added feature suggestion”
If this feature ever happen one day, and if you don’t like it, JUST LEAVE THIS OPTION OFF and continue your way, nothing will change for you!
complicate? as i allready sayed, if you don’t like it, if ever it’s added one day, just leave it off… that won’t change anything…
just an additional feature… on or off, free or fix…
I am talking about recording midi inputs live. Something that is done in probably every studio production nowadays. Think of any hardware synth, drummachine or whatever. No one is recording only the audio of those things. At least not in the beginning. You play your synth, sampler, drummachine, whatever and record midi first, just in case you need to fix something afterwards. You know, a “sequencer”, be it in hard or software, is a piece of gear that is only made for exactly that thing, namely sequencing and controlling other electronic instruments via MIDI which will then produce sound that is then recorded into a multitrack recorder for mixing.
Anyway, I think you know exactly what I am talking about
Okay, one last time: What I mean can be achieved in both ways, either by changing the input routing OR by changing the output routing. If the input routing stays like it is, then we have to record a whole drumset into one track. However, if we could then route the samples that are triggered by the notes in that track to different outputs/tracks, such that they can be processed individually (effect and mixing wise), then this would solve the problem as well as changing the input routing.
fladd TALKS ABOUT MIDI ONLY TO TRIG THE SOUND THAT IS GOING TO GO OUT ON MORE THAN THE TRACK CONTAINING THE NOTES OF THESE SOUNDS!
so forget midi and just say a KEYBOARD COMPUTER (azerty or querty or quertzanyway) wich will be able to trig multisamples going on many other tracks or sends than the one where you type on your keyboard…
SO YOU CAN RECORD A RICH AND VARIOUS STUFF (RYTHM OR ANY OTHER STUFF LIKE PADS OR SCREAMING DOGS OR EXPLODING FRYER) PASSING THROUGH LOTS OF AUDIO TRACKS IN REAL TIME!! ALL IN ONE
MIDI IS NOT THE PROBLEM, IT’s AN EXAMPLE ABOUT ONE WAY OF HOW TO TRIG
THIS IS ANOTHER WAY OF “ORGANISATION” and “DISCIPLINE”
easiest way… or another? yep, that should also work, but i don’t really understand what’s easier than a new tiny box placed near the NNA, INTERPOLATION, etc, this little box lets you decide between free (as usual) or fixed… but surely your suggestion is more flexible if automation of the destination track is include so you can switch between differnt traks with a sample in the song… sure this is a good idea but means the whole xrni instead of the samples (ex multisample) no?
k i see… so, anyway, this option, (your idea) as i say should be cool and, wherever, however and whenever it is created one day , i’ll use it
so, you still think it’s another weird topic??
I was hoping I could drum smp into different tracks, it would be the greatest if you can drum a song and dont have to split the smp after. I don’t care what other people think about it, but when you make tracks who use a lot of effects have to drum those tracks in dry and split them after, my creativeness is long gone, and thats what it is all about: making the best music you can.
For offline insertion you can try the note-router:
You have to manualy create the tool-folder “com.renoise.NoteRouter.xrnx” in the scripts folder and copy all the files from the above link into that folder
At least you don’t need to manually split the drums anylonger.
Perhaps only merge if you want certain percussion elements joined in one track but is less of a problem with mix paste than manually splitting stuff.
Multiple outs for the internal sampler would be a great feature that I would use all the time.
One of the advantages of using the internal sampler is that your sounds get saved within the RNS file. I’ve been tracking for almost 20 years and like to be able to load old songs… That’s the beauty of having everything in one file. Ten years from now when my setup is totally different, I can still open up Renoise and play that song exactly as it was.
I have Battery which supports multiple outs, but I don’t like having all the samples for my songs spread around on the hard drive. The ability to use the RNS sampler and route the samples to individual tracks is a big advantage because you can effect each sound individually.
If you want to route notes into a specific track when you play the instrument, this has been possible in Renoise since v2.7, although you would need to use an external drum kit, MIDI keyboard, trigger pads or something like that to use the feature. If you have something like that around, you can set up each instrument’s track assignments in the instrument settings
Actually, one of the big differences between something like Renoise and more traditional DAWs like Cubase, Ableton etc. is that you have the freedom to move sounds into any track you’d like. There is no concept such as MIDI tracks, audio tracks etc.
and, wherever, however and whenever it is created one day , i’ll use it