Thanks for this Ledger, a really great workflow enhancement!
Is it possible to automate a plug like Kontakt (which uses MIDI for all it’s various knobs/sliders and controls) with this Tool?
Is it possible to automate a plug like Kontakt (which uses MIDI for all it’s various knobs/sliders and controls) with this Tool?
I guess you would have to add the MIDI control device, but set the sliders up yourself. The rotary will work as normal on the selected device/ property though, just not the [G] grab button.
New update,
added a new button that adds an Instrument automation device to the track if none are present or selects the last present one in the track…
edit: 0.82 now on tools site aswell.
v0.82
-Added a [+] button that selects the last Instrument Automation Device present on the track. If none are present then a new one is added
Ledger,
Ideally I’d like to just be able to use the wheel to dial a number into whatever the current line is in the pattern editor…
The automation writing wheel only seems to write to the automation envelope, not to the pattern effect numbers. I could have sworn I had this working before … Can you think of anything I might have set up wrong?
Afraid this one only works on envelopes. The tool I wrote that adds pattern data is note properties (only vel/pan/delay though):
https://forum.renoise.com/t/new-tool-3-0-note-properties/41763
I can use your automation tool to ‘bring to light’ the control on the VST GUI from the sea of possible controls, then use the standard Renoise controls to add that param to the pattern data. Thats a workaround.
I wonder if it’s possible to transcribe automation window ‘points’ into the pattern data.
It’s just that generally I prefer to hammer numbers in rather than work with the curves or points in the auto editor … but your method here of picking up a VST control and then manipulating it is awesome.
The perfect solution, for me, would be to write into the pattern data directly from the VST control 
Thanks!
I would love to see an option to write modulation even if i dont move by the knob (so you can easily overdub previously recorded modulations) with some resolution setting(like write point for every 4 lines). Just idea )
I can use your automation tool to ‘bring to light’ the control on the VST GUI from the sea of possible controls, then use the standard Renoise controls to add that param to the pattern data. Thats a workaround.
I wonder if it’s possible to transcribe automation window ‘points’ into the pattern data.
It’s just that generally I prefer to hammer numbers in rather than work with the curves or points in the auto editor … but your method here of picking up a VST control and then manipulating it is awesome.
The perfect solution, for me, would be to write into the pattern data directly from the VST control
Thanks!
The transcribing to pattern could be done, it could be a bit tricky on implementation due to the fx lanes allowing any command anywhere i.e. not having dedecated fx lanes for each command. I `m sure some compromise would be possible though.
With writing from the VST control, afaik this couldn’t be done neatly with the current API. Here`s the post from earlier in the thread after Djeroek was asking the same:
https://forum.renoise.com/t/new-tool-3-1-automation-single-slider/44614
I would love to see an option to write modulation even if i dont move by the knob (so you can easily overdub previously recorded modulations) with some resolution setting(like write point for every 4 lines). Just idea )
Certainly further improvements to consider. Needs the will/ time from me for a good burst of scripting though…
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Would probably skip anything crashy, but I`ll have a look at the other code when I next get round to this,
cheers
Well, it’s pretty damn great as it is… if it never changed it’d still be great.
Two new shortcuts added for faster browsing through your automated parameters.
They will open the automation lane if it isn’t already. Unlike the tools gui selection method, you don’t have to choose the next device manually, these shortcuts just take you up and down the renoise automations list.
AUS Next Automated Parameter
AUS Previous Automated Parameter
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Now added:
Duplicate Automation Selection shortcut:
Make a selection in the automation editor, press the shortcut and that selection repeated after itself.
Testing on this one is appreciated as it was a pain to implement, so any bugfixes would be much easier with the code fresh in my mind
`AUS` Duplicate Automation Selection"
also recently added:
Two new shortcuts added for faster browsing through your automated parameters.
They will open the automation lane if it isn’t already. Unlike the tools gui selection method, you don’t have to choose the next device manually, these shortcuts just take you up and down the renoise automations list.
AUSNext Automated Parameter
AUSPrevious Automated Parameter…
Writing from vst control can be done and was already made in my tuned shortcuts tool. It works. But it is unstable, renoise can crash, especially with old vsts .
Are we talking a hard crash that takes down Renoise (with or without saving a backup), or a scripting error (with or without a warning message)?
Devs need to know about anything that can take down the software like that…
I would love to see an option to write modulation even if i dont move by the knob (so you can easily overdub previously recorded modulations) with some resolution setting(like write point for every 4 lines). Just idea )
Right, I`ve just added this to 0.85 (without resolution control)
When enabled the the Latch mode button has two colours; red and orange. When orange it means it is armed so the next time you use the large rotary the overdubbing will occur. When the overdubbing is occuring it remains red. It automatically goes back to orange (armed) when the transport stops or you change parameters. You can also toggle it off again by re-pressing the button.
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bugfix: also updated the automation writing function so that it will overwrite dots that occur between lines.
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see a couple of posts up for new recent keyboard shortcuts
Hi,
This really is a great tool. Here are a couple off suggestions:
- Make the grabber [G] available for all parameters, not only VST’s.
- Auto grabber. So that whatever slider that was touched last will be choosen.
- Automation on/off button, so it would be possible to move the knob without writing automation, but still controlling the chosen parameter.
Suggestion 2 and 3 together would give a very handy usage of the tool when controling “single slider” with a external midicontroller.
This would give instant physical knob access to control every last parameter that was touched. Very cool.
Example: if I want my external midiknob to control any parameter in renoise, I just click the parameter and the single slider then directly grabs it so I can control it with my midi controller. This would off course need an option to turn off the automation so I can use this feature just to make adjustments without automating.
Possible? Would be very powerful.
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For 2. Unfortunately this could add too much overhead as some plugs have many parameters which need to be watched/checked each time you do a grab operation.
For 3. this could be added easily enough, but may not be so useful then without 2…
- Make the grabber [G] available for all parameters, not only VST’s.
Could be added, but again were you thinking of this in conjunction with 2 and 3?
The autograb function is not necessary. The other two suggestions together would be just as good.
A [G] button for all parameters would give a powerful tool to very quickly bind any parameter to a single midi knob (better tactile response than using the mouse). With the addition of a keyboard shortcut for [G] it would be even better than autograb.
An automation-write-on/off-switch, in conjunction with the [G] button for all parameters (with keyboard shortcut), would make this tool handy either for just editing parameters or writing automation using the midi knob.
So, yes - I was thinking: suggestion 1 in conjunction with 3. But the most important of the two, I think is [G] for all parameters.