Non-Self-Contained Xrns?

General Discussion
1

Hi there,

is there any way to save a song WITHOUT the samples packed with it, but only with references to them (like in other DAWs)?
And if not, shouldn’t it be at least an option? While I like the option to have everything included, it is sometimes quite redundant.

Regards,
fladd

2

Not yet possible, but it would be nice if it was. It’s definitely been discussed by various other people in the past.

3

I don’t like the idea though… Changing a sample, and thereby changing multiple songs (this could lead to fatal mistakes!), which in my case will happen eventually.
In the old cakewalk I always forgot to backup the ‘wavedata’ directory, and therefore lost a lot of songs.
Buy a $99 harddisk with 1Tbyte. Tadaah! :)

4

Renoise could make a directory for each XRNS, where it stores all the data, kinda like Ableton does, I think.

5

Ableton Live saves an extra file at the same location as an imported file…
No idea who came up with such an idea…but he/she must be a total idiot.

6

No, I’m VERY glad it does that! It allows for Ableton’s flexibility with (re)sampling! It’s not idiotic, it’s your lack of Gb’s ;)

7

The idea is that it would be optional, so if you don’t like it then simply don’t enable the feature.

8

I think no one would force you to use this feature.

fladd

9

Oh no, it’s really not that… I would rather see all these files saved in one chosen folder and not spread all over my maps like crazy. ;)

10

I see your point, but in my imagination it’s like this:

  • Renoise makes a “projects” folder when first installed
  • Each new xrns saved gets a folder in “projects”
  • Each project-folder gets updated with samples whenever you save the xrns

But as there is no “freeze track” option or something along that line, yeah… this folder-idea has no point…