Old Boomer has something to say

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Sorry to hear that.

I am actually a pensioner. I have a disease that degenerates the peripheral nervous system. So that can also affect the fact that I already feel old. But here we go.

That is so true. I think the world will be fucked when our generation leaves this world. How on earth they will survive :joy: Well, maybe with the help of a AI. Good luck…

On the other hand, it saddens me that I didn’t learn other music-making programs back in the day. However, it would have been very beneficial in many ways. But I’ve been making music with trackers for 34 years now, so I don’t feel like learning anymore. Or why not?

The same goes as when I once chose a video editing program and ended up choosing Final Cut, so I’ve become so obsessed with that too. Although Da Vinci Resolve is better and I have that too, but I find it so cumbersome. Should have started with it from the beginning then.

Life is full of choices.

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Instead, I would like to be 20 years older to enjoy a lot of things that I didn’t have time to see, so be proud of your story. Today we have everything at our disposal with extreme ease but for this very reason we are never happy, once upon a time maybe you started making music with poor equipment, very limited and which also cost a lot, so it was tiring just to get hold of the objects, but when finally you had them in your hands, I can imagine the immense happiness… then the difficulty in understanding the functions, the obstacles you encounter when you have an idea that your machine cannot realise, and the satisfaction when with your brain you find alternative solutions and creative… Today instead… Do you want this? Click here. Do you want that? Click there. Are 24 channels enough for you to create a song? Well, you have infinite channels at your disposal. Can one equalizer be enough to push the kick? Well, you have 30 equalizers and you haven’t paid for a single one. We have much more than we need, but it always seems like we are missing something, probably what we are missing is having limits to challenge… :wink:

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I think that’s why I enjoy doing (almost) all my synthesis with renoise. It’s challenging! I really appreciate creative constraints and how they force one to think laterally, experiment, and work around limitations. And also to accept that there are limitations in the first place, and that that’s not necessarily a bad thing

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I think the same. The first challenge for me was to understand how that apparently insignificant sequence of numbers and letters could be music, it seemed more like software development code ahahah…Now that the mechanism is clear to me and that I know how to create the same sequence in Renoise or any other DAW, I want to focus on the commands to insert, because I’m still using Renoise as a banal sequencer and not as a real tracker, I happened to open one of the demo projects, the sound design tutorial I think, when I saw an entire song created only with a sine wave modulated in fifty different ways via the tracker commands, it was the coup de grace, I thought: I have to learn it… but I admit that I still see it as quite complicated and often I simply find myself to duplicate the sine wave to make other sounds.

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I’m about a decade in on using renoise and I’m still discovering new things all the time. Barely touched fx commands until a couple years ago lol. It’s a deep bit of kit. Give it time :slight_smile:

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It would be handy but unnecessary. There are several DAWs for several ways of working. That’s the only reason for their existence. If any program could do everything, you wouldn’t need anything else. I’m sure that you don’t get in your car and say “Today I’m using you as a plane”, you know? :wink:

I cannot confirm that. I was a child when I started using trackers. :joy:
Instead Cubase and its piano roll kinda traumatized me, it was THAT cumbersome to handle. No fun at all.

Me too. Maybe not 20, but 10-15 years would be ideal. The best time is gone, and the future sucks even more than the present. Bad things will happen. It would be great to be older and having experienced all the good times and the good stuff. And you’re absolutely right about your comparison of back then with today. :slightly_smiling_face:

It happened over a decade ago, so it’s “ok” now I guess. I just mentioned it because you mentioned your mummy parents in connection to you feeling old.

I think the world is already fucked. The point of no return has been passed. At the end of the century Europe (and probably the entire western world) that we know will be gone for sure. Every day we’re about to watch the increasing decay. We really need Snake Plissken to push that button again. Rebuild from scratch.

I’m a 13 years Renoise user and I didn’t even scratch the surface of this piece of software. Actually I’m still a Renoise noob. I only use what I need and I ignore all the rest. :upside_down_face:

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You were probably a special child, in a good way. You know when all the children only think about playing with toy cars but there is the little genius who destroys you at chess… Things like that… You were able to grasp the potential of a tool that any other child would mistake with a strange calculator and he would start crying because he wants toy cars hahaha In any case, yes, what you say is absolutely right, there are different DAWs for different approaches, I use Renoise, FL Studio, Reaper, when I was on the Mac I used Logic, I spent time with Reason, with Cubase, with Studio One, with Bitwig, I experimented with a bit of everything, I really miss very few things that I’ve never tested for even 5 minutes… But I think it would be nice and convenient if instead to use 3 different DAWs, I could use just one that does everything I’m interested in (especially in the way I like it), just as I think it would be nice and comfortable to find yourself stopped at a red light, press a button and start flying with the car hahaha, obviously certain things don’t exist and we find our own solutions to compensate… like using 3 different DAWs… It’s probably the only limit we have left to necessarily circumvent ahaha

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You got it. There is no “perfect” in life. You gotta take what’s there or try to create something yourself. :slightly_smiling_face:

Just a child that likes to make music, just like other children. Some of my friends produced electronic music, too. Children don’t have money, so of course everyone was using a tracker. And I have to say it was pretty easy to learn, quite the opposite of being traumatized. The concept (incl. Hex) makes sense, the GUIs are pretty clear/minimal and easy to use and the type of editor allows you to use your keyboard like an instrument, furthermore it has a great overview (especially when we’re talking about notes). From my point of view Cubase was a nightmare in comparison, not only because of the “piano roll system”. It’s harder to understand in general and imho more cumbersome to use. In a tracker you simply go to “disk options”, load the sample/instrument, select step length, activate edit mode by pressing a button and then rhythmically use your keyboard like the desired instrument. When you’re done go to “disk options” again and save as song. That’s it. It’s as easy as it can get.

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I’ve never understood Cubase either, it came in handy for recording vocals a few times when I was a kid but nothing more, which still bothers me to do on FL, I don’t know why, I know how to do it, I could do it, but I don’t like it and I go to Reaper (now). FL to play for me was very simple to understand and the FL piano roll is said to be one of the most beautiful/comfortable/advanced and I agree, in fact with FL I don’t use a keyboard, I don’t record midi, I click on the piano roll and I write my sequences with the same simplicity with which on Renoise I hardly use the mouse at all and by correctly setting LBP and the function to skip steps when necessary, I can simply press esc and hold down a button to record perhaps a straight kick , a snare drum, a hi hat and a rhythmic melody hahaha, but all this now that I’m 29, maybe at 12 I would have been too afraid of Renoise, knowing me…I had a different mind, I wanted easy things, I obviously used a lot presets and I wanted to crack all the famous plugins thinking they would work magic on my music hahaha I didn’t understand many things…

My childhood hero. Escape from New York goes easily my top 10 movie list.

But that’s what I was talking about. Trackers in fact ARE easy to understand, even for a kid. I’m the living proof, I was 12 when I started and obviously I was successful learning it easily. And there’s nothing wrong using presets, that’s what most producers do, whether professional or not. Today one just have to know how to design sounds in general in case you need to change presets (that’s what I mostly do) or if you would like to create a sound from scratch (that’s what I also do). Back then this wasn’t possible in a tracker. Plugins can do “magic” on your sound if you know how to handle them correctly. Some just improve the sound regardless of the default settings, like the Weiss stuff available at Softube.

Then you gotta play Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain, I’m pretty sure the main character was based on Snake. In fact the main character of that game also is called “Snake”. This can’t be a coincidence. And yes, Kurt Russell is great. I like him the most in “Tango & Cash”, but I also like “Death Proof” and of course “Escape From New York”.

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I have to check out that Metal Gear game. Thanks for the tip :+1: Sometimes back in the day, I played that very first version. Must have been on PS1. I really like third-person games. I always dreamed of an Escape from New York game and of course a third-person one. That world is quite fascinating and would be an amazing environment for a game.

Those are really good movies. I also liked him in “Big Trouble in Little China” and of course “The Thing”.

I’ve seen people say this as well, although I’m still relatively new to Trackers. Renoise is my first tracker and last DAW because it can do everything I need it to. Yes, even a pianoroll, the tools just aren’t integrated windows but it’s there if you need it.

I’ve never made chiptunes in Renoise just straight up urban music and it does this better than ANY other software I’ve used.

:point_up_2:t6:+1,000,000 this is by far the greatest feature, so many shortcuts that by default loads are left unassigned lol. I wish we could control fx and mod sliders with the keyboard too :face_holding_back_tears:(next update :pray:t6: please)

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