I don’t use expensive VSTs, so i can’t compare to those, but that wouldn’t make much sense and wouldn’t be fair because it’s often more expensive than Renoise in the first place.
Renoise FX are not bad at all, they are usually a better alternative than most free plugins out there. Of course they’re not as good as the one you paid your life savings for, but for what you pay, Renoise FX are great.
That’s true, most of the time better than other free stuff (with the exception of the compressor perhaps, unless for the experimental approach). However, I did however make my judgment based on other DAWs internal stuff which should be considered pretty fair I believe.
I love the bus compressor with its very, very warm and soft knee
It might be interesting in some cases, yes. For most cases, not in my book. If it sounds good its good though, so just keep on with that!
I’ll challenge anyone to pick a break and use whatever linear phase multiband nonsense they want to try. I bet you native effects won’t be any worse. We can compare and vote on results afterwards.
No fabfilter, dmg audio, psp, sonnox, waves, izotope, urs, neve, whatever, none of that garbage is going to save your ass. I don’t even care if you use hardware, I’ll post an .xrni to match it. The whole industry is trash.
I’m talking about breaks though, Renoise stuff. Not “smooth rich warm ribbon mic’d eunuch sonatas” or whatever.
In all fairness of the discussion: at least for me, it’s more about the UI and features (not really the sound of the plug-ins) which determine the end quality. When I compare mixes I’ve made only in Renoise and the other DAW I use the quality difference is huge. So, personally it’s a race which is already over with a clear winner.
Why people so care about eq analizer?
Also why it can be the main disadvantage i wonder.
I think the answer to this question have already been answered in thread, no? There are a lot of other topics about it too. I just wanted to take the opportunity to express_ my _opinion while the subject was hot again, and I’m certainly not alone. If you’re curious why Equazlier is important, then do some research on the subject.
Either way, I’m using another DAW and plug-ins for mixing mostly.
It doesn’t give you a pretty animation in the background
I might’ve overstated how good the native effects are previously, improved new stuff got me hyped. But the EQ is unacceptable because it doesn’t have a visual analysis? Nonsense, it’s all about what you hear. The eye candy is nice but being pragmatic, it isn’t that useful, certainly not a make or break feature.
First of all, you didn’t read my post entirely. I said “The EQ window is extremely small and doesn’t have a frequency analyzer, at least the first mentioned factor makes it more or less usable to me.” (Edit: "It’s supposed to be “unusuable” of course but seems you got the point)
Anyway, so just because I prefer to work in depth of my tracks with a more detailed approach, makes what I said nonsense?
Sorry, but all this - including “pretty animation” - is just plain arrogance.
If the Renoise EQ works for you though, congrats!
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I’d like to take the opportunity to ask you of what reason you ditched EQs like FabFilters in favour of the Renoise EQ?
This is really interesting and I mean that.
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To balance things out a bit, I think the LP/HP filters in the new version of Renoise is finally usuable. Before they wasn’t. Speaking of which… A good EQ already have LP/HP filters.