OSX Sierra 10.12.1: everything is ok in Renoise

Hi,

if I run Renoise 3.1 64bit on OSX Sierra 10.12.1, the GUI is stuttering always. The framerate obviously is not constant. Often lags will appear. No matter whatI did set in framerate settings (limit to 60 or not), no matter if I add “CGDisableCoalescedUpdates = YES” to Info.plist.

Can you fix it?

Thanks.

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i just tried latest renoise builds on macbook pro late 2013 with latest sierra (which is core i5 2.8ghz, retina and intel iris video) - 60fps smooth experience. No lags or stutters whatsoever, but it was all with native fx, havent tried those with vst.

“latest renoise builds” :badteeth: Just logged into backstage because of that… :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, here it is not smooth, yes using some VSTis.

All I can tell, that Renoise did run much more smooth on OSX 10.9.4 on the same notebook. And other software or the finder doesn’t show such lagging.

Can you try with VSTis and also bridged ones, again? I will try with Renoise only fx.

“latest renoise builds” :badteeth: Just logged into backstage because of that… :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, here it is not smooth, yes using some VSTis.

All I can tell, that Renoise did run much more smooth on OSX 10.9.4 on the same notebook. And other software or the finder doesn’t show such lagging.

Can you try with VSTis and also bridged ones, again? I will try with Renoise only fx.

i will, i guess i’ll be able to report on all of that in december. too busy with other things atm.

i will, i guess i’ll be able to report on all of that in december. too busy with other things atm.

That’s OK for me, if it helps you to stay organized in your life by moving such work like opening a song in renoise to the future. Such simple things can be pain for the brain.

I forgot to mention that the more or less constant glitching even appears on an empty song. In fact I assume it’s the gui again? Will disable all tools and see if it helps.

Since osx 10.11 I read that the whole screen is now drawn thru OpenGL or metal, which still was optional in osx 10.9? Since the renoise gui seems to tend to hammer updates into buffer a million times a second, I would assume that the problem is there? Only my wild assumptions…

I start to believe it’s a problem with my hackintosh configuration and not Renoise’s fault.

Somehow the graphics driver seems to put the graphics into sleep too often, there is no exact profile for my Sony. Was not like this on OSX 10.9.

So please delete this thread.

Ok, sorry guys.

Fixed the stuttering now by patching the AppleGraphicsPowerManagement.kext (AGPM) profile for my graphics card to high performance. Everything again smooth like butter.

Ok, sorry guys.

Fixed the stuttering now by patching the AppleGraphicsPowerManagement.kext (AGPM) profile for my graphics card to high performance. Everything again smooth like butter.

Btw, have not time to test the thing, but is performance better under Sierra than in El Capitan?

Btw, have not time to test the thing, but is performance better under Sierra than in El Capitan?

Never used El Capitan. Regarding vs. 10.9 I would say speed slightly improved due snappier graphics thru metal layer. CPU though maybe a bit slower, but minimal.

The renoise gui now is usable like under 10.9, but i still wish it would be displayed with constant 60fps, no lagging, just like in Bitwig.

Should have run some benchmarks before upgrading…

Spotlight still is the same performance mess. It indexes and indexes… Even worse on Sierra. Wtf. Really bad from concept. That’s why I partly disable it and use quicksilver instead. Will explore other parts later (like the system wide audio unit manager which is a buggy mess on 10.9, all units will be rescanned as soon as QuickTime is involved somewhere, etc)

BTW. I bought some nice Ssd now for this notebook, will turn it now into a decent Macbook Pro development machine. Once you get used to Ssd, there is no way back :stuck_out_tongue:

Never used El Capitan. Regarding vs. 10.9 I would say speed slightly improved due snappier graphics thru metal layer. CPU though maybe a bit slower, but minimal.

The renoise gui now is usable like under 10.9, but i still wish it would be displayed with constant 60fps, no lagging, just like in Bitwig.

Should have run some benchmarks before upgrading…

Spotlight still is the same performance mess. It indexes and indexes… Even worse on Sierra. Wtf. Really bad from concept. That’s why I partly disable it and use quicksilver instead. Will explore other parts later (like the system wide audio unit manager which is a buggy mess on 10.9, all units will be rescanned as soon as QuickTime is involved somewhere, etc)

BTW. I bought some nice Ssd now for this notebook, will turn it now into a decent Macbook Pro development machine. Once you get used to Ssd, there is no way back :stuck_out_tongue:

spotlight always been a mess, but in your case u use hackintosh, so it can be an issue with ur exact build or something.

and yeah, ssd is great in terms of perfomance, cant imagine going back to classic hard disks.

spotlight always been a mess, but in your case u use hackintosh, so it can be an issue with ur exact build or something.

and yeah, ssd is great in terms of perfomance, cant imagine going back to classic hard disks.

Nah, that problem exist on every Mac without an SSD, and I doubt such high access activity is good for SSD either. Seen so many Macs, esp. MacBooks that are slowed down as hell.