Pattern Jumping

Help, Support & Bugs Beginners Questions - Renoise
1

Hey there,

I want to be able to “jump to Pattern X”, but according to docs, Renoise is the only tracker in the universe without a pattern jump command??!?! :o

Lets say this is my pattern data:

  
*1  
 2 [jump to pattern 1]  
*3  
 4 [jump to pattern 3]  
*5  
 6 [jump to pattern 5]  
*7  
 8 [jump to pattern 7]

Every * is a midi trigger point. But I’d like be able to loop patterns [1,2] … and [3,4] and [5,6] and [7,8] …

On stage I will be playing the guitar and using a midi controller to change ‘sections’. (maybe by foot)

Is there a way to do this?

Regards,
Mick :)

2

look under Seq. Triggering

( you may want trigger or schedule depending if you want to jump immediately or at the end of the current pattern. )

3

Yep, that I can easily do …

However at the end of pattern 2, I want to jump back to pattern 1; at the end of pattern 4, I want to jump back to pattern 3. Essentially, I want to have multiple loop points in a song. Renoise only facilitates a single loop point via the interface. To my knowledge the loop points can’t be changed with midi or pattern instructions.

In every tracker I’ve used since 1992, Soundtracker/Protracker/Octamed/ScreamTracker/FT2/Impulse Tracker/Milky/MPT have a “Position Jump” (mostly Bxx) command.

Renoise mysteriously omits this.

So … I’m asking if there’s a workaround.

4

Look under “Seq. Triggering -> Trigger (or schedule) -> Sequence XX ->”
so for your example you want to bind “Seq. Triggering -> Schedule -> Sequence XX ->Sequence 01 [trigger]” and “… -> Sequence 03 [trigger]” and press the MIDI commands sometime during playback of pattern 2 and 4

As for looping you want to turn on the pattern looping (comma) - you can also bind this to MIDI of course.

Infact for your example why not combine 1&2 and 3&4 into 2 double length patterns and turn pattern looping on and off by MIDI? but for more complex setups than that example, try what I’ve mentioned.

5

The pattern jump in the past was a solution to circumvent lack of memory while this today no longer is an issue.
Renoise supports the pattern-break command (FBxx) but when it regards jumping to specific other patterns, it is simply assumed you just use another sequence slot and add a pattern there.
Nothing much mystery about that idea and back then, Renoise was most likely not produced as a tool for live usage.
You can map sequences to your midi gear now as Radian explained, but as i can see when you are playing guitar, this can be quite ackward business as you would need a few footpedals to jump to specific sequence positions then…

Though, some possibilities will become available in 2.6 requiring you only one footpedal to do the same job.

Or for now: use one footpedal with extra buttons allowing you to change the midi-channel and assign different sequence loops to different channels.
This is still only one footpedal allowing you to program 16 different jump-points.
Still a solution where you have to practice a lot though.

6

Even though I probably wouldn’t use pattern jump that much I’m for having the option to though.

So, +1

7

I suppose I just want to loop sections, jam a bit … tap a button towards the end of a section and it’ll move onto another section. I want sections to be 2,4,8, or 16 patterns long and loopable - so I can jam on a chord progression for 20 minutes if I wanted to.

I suppose I could join the group of patterns into one section - is there a way to tell a pattern to loop forever?

8

No not in 2.5 yet. I can guarantee you there is a way to do this in 2.6.

9

Just turn on Pattern Loop mode.

10

For one pattern, but not for a group.
Also the loop-nodes are not midi controllable. I think Mick was aiming for a solution in that area.

11

Re-read what he said.

“I suppose I could join the group of patterns into one section - is there a way to tell a pattern to loop forever?”

So he was asking about a single pattern after joining together. At least from how I read that sentence anyway.

And you can tell a group of pattern to loop forever using the check boxes in the sequence list. Not so easy to set up with keyboard (although it is possible) and I don’t think MIDI mappable at all…