The drive in the instruments tab is affecting the shape of the volume envelope ., so it’s more acting like an overdriven vca.
When aplying a fast exponential decaying envelope to a sample , the saturation boosts all the levels of the amp.env.
Shouldn’t the amplitude env.be the last stage , to shape the ( saturated) output ?
This really affects the decay stage/snappines of fast envelopes , putting the drive at the end of the signal chain without the option to change (pre amplitude ) is major design flaw .
This makes me suspect that renoise/redux amp.envelopes are processsed before the actual instrument effects/drive ?
Abletons sampler , its amplitude envelope shape is not affected by the drive ( pre or post filter ) and I can give numerous examples…scroll down for screenshots GALORE!
Correct me if I am wrong , just thinking out loud here
so renoise/redux is (effects section not included )
Sample---->instr.filter/effect-----> drive ------->VOLUME ENV.–>out
Which makes me also a bit supsicious whether the drive is actually affecting the filter’s internal bcircuit.
We don’t get any overtones when resonance is high and the drive is disabled ( analog modeled filters do ), increasing the sample’s input volume does not overload the filter .
Enabling the drive creates overtones , yes , but so does a post sat.effect , and the fact that the drive shapes the output of the overal volume envelope makes me think that it’s just a sat.effect at the end of the instrument signal chain , more of a vca overdrive .
Kraken ,can you please shed some light on this manner , I am just really curious
Can’t there be an option to make the drive /filter pre- volume envelope ?
Or better ,make the amplitude env. the last module in the voice routing .
This is an essential feature.
If renoise architecture does not allow this kind of reconfiguration , the amp.env.shape will always be affected by all new (if any) forthcoming filter/fx.
I don’t see any advantages with the current configuration .
Can it be changed ?
Posted below is simple saturated filter , fast volume envelope which is not affected by the drive, but shaping the overal output of the sat.signal ( simple reaktor ens. ).
This is currently not possible in redux /future renoise when drive is enabled