Problem with Renoise and VST3 Native instrument Thrill (from Kontakt7)

Hello, I have a problem with my Renoise software and the VST Thrill. I started working on a track, everything went well. I saved my work, no problem…However, when I tried to open my work again, I had a crash of my VST . Unable to find my configuration. If I start a new project, Thrill works well. It only crashes when my track loads. Thank you in advance for your help.

Renoise has a log file, what does it say about the crashes?

"============================================================
Version : Renoise V3.4.3 (Jul 29 2023)
Date : 2024-07-07
Time : 00:30:18
OS : Windows 10 (x86_64)

System: Using 'C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources' as resource base directory…

CPU: Found 1 enabled unit(s) with 8 core(s) and 16 logical processor(s) per unit. 8 cores, 16 logical processors are enabled in total.

Application: Showing the splash window…
Application: Initializing the API…

IPP: Detected CPU type: 0x46

WASAPI: Found input device: 7-8 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found input device: MAIN (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Skipping input device: Microphone (2- Wireless Stereo Headset) (need at least 2 channels - stereo I/O)
WASAPI: Found input device: 9-10 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found input device: 1-2 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found input device: 5-6 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Skipping input device: Microphone (2- USB2.0 MIC) (need at least 2 channels - stereo I/O)
WASAPI: Found input device: 3-4 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek(R) Audio)
WASAPI: Found output device: 3-4 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: Haut-parleurs (2- Wireless Stereo Headset)
WASAPI: Found output device: 5-6 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: C49HG9x (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
WASAPI: Found output device: 7-8 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: 9-10 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: 1-2 (OCTA-CAPTURE)

MIDI: Initializing DirectMusic…

Graphport: Initializing Freeimage…

GraphPort: Running in DPI awareness mode: 1
GraphPort: Initializing DirectX…
GraphPort: Initializing the Font Engine…

ReWire Slave: ReWire slave engine link (Local Machine) FAILED to install (RegError: 5)
ReWire Slave: ReWire engine link (Current User) is already installed and up to date…
ReWire Slave: ReWire Panel was initialized…
ReWire Slave: ReWire Slave mode failed to init (no master is running)…

ReWire Master: Successfully opened

Application: Start running…
Application: Loading the preferences…
Application: Init…

ScriptingTools: Initializing Scripting Tool: 'C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\Renoise\V3.4.3\Scripts\Tools\com.duftetools.SimplePianoroll.xrnx'…
ScriptingTools: Initializing Scripting Tool: 'C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\Tools\com.renoise.ToolUpdater.xrnx'…
ScriptingTools: Initializing Scripting Tool: 'C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\Tools\com.renoise.UpdateChecker.xrnx'…

DspDevices: Registering native DSP effects…

Audio Plugins: Searching for VST plugins in 'C:\Program Files\Native Instruments'
Audio Plugins: Searching for VST3 plugins in 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3'
Audio Plugins: Skipping VST3 plugin path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3' (Directory does not exist)…

Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\FM8.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Releasing: FM8.vst3…

Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Reaktor 6.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Releasing: Reaktor 6.vst3…

ASIO: Initializing
ASIO: Trying to open ‘OCTA-CAPTURE’
ASIO: LoadAsioDriver … OK
ASIO: ASIOInit … OK
ASIO: Using SampleRate 44100
ASIO: PostOutput is supported
ASIO: FillDriverInfo … OK
ASIO: InputBuffers: 12 available, 12 selected - Type ASIOSTInt32LSB
ASIO: OutputBuffers: 10 available, 10 selected - Type ASIOSTInt32LSB
ASIO: OutputLatency: 511, InputLatency: 404
ASIO: CreateBuffers … OK
ASIO: ASIOStart … OK
ASIO: Up and running

MIDI: Enumerating DirectMusic (WDM) MIDI devices…
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Maschine Jam - 1 [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Maschine Jam - 1 [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping softsynth WDM out-device ‘Microsoft Synthesizer’ (not supported)
MIDI: Enumerating Windows MME MIDI devices…
MIDI: Adding MME in-device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME in-device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME in-device ‘Maschine Jam - 1’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘Maschine Jam - 1’
MIDI: Finished device enumeration
MIDI: Creating MIDI server…
MIDI: Opening MME Midi-In device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Opening MME Midi-In device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’

Application: Loading the template document…

MIDI: Loading MIDI actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalMidiActions.lua’…

Osc: Loading OSC actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalOscActions.lua’…

Player: Constructing…
Player: Creating slave threads…
Player: 16 threads enabled. 16 CPUs are available.
Player: Start running…

GUI: Creating the Document GUI…
GUI: Successfully constructed

Application: Successfully loaded template document.

GraphPort: Initializing in WindowedMode
GraphPort: Successfully initialized

Application: Init OK
Application: Enter MainLoop…

Application: Releasing the old document…

MIDI: Loading MIDI actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalMidiActions.lua’…

Osc: Loading OSC actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalOscActions.lua’…

Player: Constructing…
Player: Creating slave threads…
Player: 16 threads enabled. 16 CPUs are available.
Player: Start running…

GUI: Creating the Document GUI…
GUI: Successfully constructed

Application: Loading ‘TrompetteOfTheDead.xrns’.

MIDI: Loading MIDI actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalMidiActions.lua’…

Osc: Loading OSC actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalOscActions.lua’…

Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Kontakt.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Disabled auto-suspending for plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’ (it reports an infinite tail)
Vst3Plugs: Failed to suggest speaker arrangement (not critical)
Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Kontakt.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Disabled auto-suspending for plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’ (it reports an infinite tail)
Vst3Plugs: Failed to suggest speaker arrangement (not critical)

Vst3Plugs: Plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’ crashed while calling one of its preset store/recall functions!
Vst3Plugs: FAILED to restore component state for plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’

Player: Constructing…
Player: Creating slave threads…
Player: 16 threads enabled. 16 CPUs are available.
Player: Start running…

GUI: Creating the Document GUI…
GUI: Successfully constructed

Application: Successfully loaded ‘TrompetteOfTheDead.xrns’.

Warning Message: Ouch. The VST3 plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt (from Native Instruments)’ crashed in event, function or class: ‘IPresetFile’, Thread: ‘GUI’
Warning Message: IMPORTANT: This is a fatal error. Please save the current document under a !new! name to prevent losing important data. Renoise will silently ignore any following errors from this plug-in.
Warning Message: DO NOT IGNORE THIS ERROR; DO NOT CONTINUE USING THE PLUGIN. THIS CAN DESTROY YOUR SONG OR CAUSE OTHER RANDOM CRASHES AND PROBLEMS!
Warning Message: It’s most likely that this is a bug in the VST3 plugin, so please also report this problem to the authors of this plugin in order to get the problem fixed!

Application: Exit…

Shut down: Stopped the Player

MIDI: Shut down: Closing all acquired MIDI devices…
MIDI: Shutting down MIDI server…
MIDI: Closing MME Midi-In device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Closing MME Midi-In device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Shutting down DirectMusic…

Shut down: Stopped and released all MIDI-Devices

ASIO: Stop Polling…
ASIO: Releasing OCTA-CAPTURE…

Shut down: Stopped and released the active Audio-Device
Shut down: Destroyed the Player
Shut down: Destroyed the Document

GraphPort: Releasing DirectX…

Shut down: Destroyed the GraphPort
Shut down: Saving the Preferences
Shut down: Destroyed the Preferences
Shut down: App is down

Application: Exit OK

Vst3Plugs: Releasing: Native Instruments: Kontakt…
Vst3Plugs: Releasing: Native Instruments: Kontakt…

Application: Finalizing the API…

Closing log file…

============================================================
Version : Renoise V3.4.3 (Jul 29 2023)
Date : 2024-07-07
Time : 00:36:01
OS : Windows 10 (x86_64)

System: Using 'C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources' as resource base directory…

CPU: Found 1 enabled unit(s) with 8 core(s) and 16 logical processor(s) per unit. 8 cores, 16 logical processors are enabled in total.

Application: Showing the splash window…
Application: Initializing the API…

IPP: Detected CPU type: 0x46

WASAPI: Found input device: 7-8 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found input device: MAIN (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Skipping input device: Microphone (2- Wireless Stereo Headset) (need at least 2 channels - stereo I/O)
WASAPI: Found input device: 9-10 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found input device: 1-2 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found input device: 5-6 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Skipping input device: Microphone (2- USB2.0 MIC) (need at least 2 channels - stereo I/O)
WASAPI: Found input device: 3-4 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek(R) Audio)
WASAPI: Found output device: 3-4 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: Haut-parleurs (2- Wireless Stereo Headset)
WASAPI: Found output device: 5-6 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: C49HG9x (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
WASAPI: Found output device: 7-8 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: 9-10 (OCTA-CAPTURE)
WASAPI: Found output device: 1-2 (OCTA-CAPTURE)

MIDI: Initializing DirectMusic…

Graphport: Initializing Freeimage…

GraphPort: Running in DPI awareness mode: 1
GraphPort: Initializing DirectX…
GraphPort: Initializing the Font Engine…

ReWire Slave: ReWire slave engine link (Local Machine) FAILED to install (RegError: 5)
ReWire Slave: ReWire engine link (Current User) is already installed and up to date…
ReWire Slave: ReWire Panel was initialized…
ReWire Slave: ReWire Slave mode failed to init (no master is running)…

ReWire Master: Successfully opened

Application: Start running…
Application: Loading the preferences…
Application: Init…

ScriptingTools: Initializing Scripting Tool: 'C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\Renoise\V3.4.3\Scripts\Tools\com.duftetools.SimplePianoroll.xrnx'…
ScriptingTools: Initializing Scripting Tool: 'C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\Tools\com.renoise.ToolUpdater.xrnx'…
ScriptingTools: Initializing Scripting Tool: 'C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\Tools\com.renoise.UpdateChecker.xrnx'…

DspDevices: Registering native DSP effects…

Audio Plugins: Searching for VST plugins in 'C:\Program Files\Native Instruments'
Audio Plugins: Searching for VST3 plugins in 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3'
Audio Plugins: Skipping VST3 plugin path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3' (Directory does not exist)…

Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\FM8.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Releasing: FM8.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Reaktor 6.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Releasing: Reaktor 6.vst3…

ASIO: Initializing
ASIO: Trying to open ‘OCTA-CAPTURE’
ASIO: LoadAsioDriver … OK
ASIO: ASIOInit … OK
ASIO: Using SampleRate 44100
ASIO: PostOutput is supported
ASIO: FillDriverInfo … OK
ASIO: InputBuffers: 12 available, 12 selected - Type ASIOSTInt32LSB
ASIO: OutputBuffers: 10 available, 10 selected - Type ASIOSTInt32LSB
ASIO: OutputLatency: 511, InputLatency: 404
ASIO: CreateBuffers … OK
ASIO: ASIOStart … OK
ASIO: Up and running

MIDI: Enumerating DirectMusic (WDM) MIDI devices…
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Maschine Jam - 1 [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE) [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping emulated WDM device ‘Maschine Jam - 1 [Émulé]’
MIDI: Skipping softsynth WDM out-device ‘Microsoft Synthesizer’ (not supported)
MIDI: Enumerating Windows MME MIDI devices…
MIDI: Adding MME in-device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME in-device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME in-device ‘Maschine Jam - 1’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Adding MME out-device ‘Maschine Jam - 1’
MIDI: Finished device enumeration
MIDI: Creating MIDI server…
MIDI: Opening MME Midi-In device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Opening MME Midi-In device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’

Application: Loading the template document…

MIDI: Loading MIDI actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalMidiActions.lua’…

Osc: Loading OSC actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalOscActions.lua’…

Player: Constructing…
Player: Creating slave threads…
Player: 16 threads enabled. 16 CPUs are available.
Player: Start running…

GUI: Creating the Document GUI…
GUI: Successfully constructed

Application: Successfully loaded template document.

GraphPort: Initializing in WindowedMode
GraphPort: Successfully initialized

Application: Init OK
Application: Enter MainLoop…

Application: Releasing the old document…

MIDI: Loading MIDI actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalMidiActions.lua’…

Osc: Loading OSC actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalOscActions.lua’…

Player: Constructing…
Player: Creating slave threads…
Player: 16 threads enabled. 16 CPUs are available.
Player: Start running…

GUI: Creating the Document GUI…
GUI: Successfully constructed

Application: Loading ‘TrompetteOfTheDead.xrns’.

MIDI: Loading MIDI actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalMidiActions.lua’…

Osc: Loading OSC actions from file ‘C:\Program Files\Renoise 3.4.3\Resources\Scripts\GlobalOscActions.lua’…

Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Kontakt.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Disabled auto-suspending for plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’ (it reports an infinite tail)
Vst3Plugs: Failed to suggest speaker arrangement (not critical)
Vst3Plugs: Instantiating: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Kontakt.vst3…
Vst3Plugs: Disabled auto-suspending for plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’ (it reports an infinite tail)
Vst3Plugs: Failed to suggest speaker arrangement (not critical)

Vst3Plugs: Plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’ crashed while calling one of its preset store/recall functions!
Vst3Plugs: FAILED to restore component state for plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt’

Player: Constructing…
Player: Creating slave threads…
Player: 16 threads enabled. 16 CPUs are available.
Player: Start running…

GUI: Creating the Document GUI…
GUI: Successfully constructed

Application: Successfully loaded ‘TrompetteOfTheDead.xrns’.

Warning Message: Ouch. The VST3 plugin ‘Native Instruments: Kontakt (from Native Instruments)’ crashed in event, function or class: ‘IPresetFile’, Thread: ‘GUI’
Warning Message: IMPORTANT: This is a fatal error. Please save the current document under a !new! name to prevent losing important data. Renoise will silently ignore any following errors from this plug-in.
Warning Message: DO NOT IGNORE THIS ERROR; DO NOT CONTINUE USING THE PLUGIN. THIS CAN DESTROY YOUR SONG OR CAUSE OTHER RANDOM CRASHES AND PROBLEMS!
Warning Message: It’s most likely that this is a bug in the VST3 plugin, so please also report this problem to the authors of this plugin in order to get the problem fixed!

Application: Exit…

Shut down: Stopped the Player

MIDI: Shut down: Closing all acquired MIDI devices…
MIDI: Shutting down MIDI server…
MIDI: Closing MME Midi-In device ‘MIDI (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Closing MME Midi-In device ‘CTRL (OCTA-CAPTURE)’
MIDI: Shutting down DirectMusic…

Shut down: Stopped and released all MIDI-Devices

ASIO: Stop Polling…
ASIO: Releasing OCTA-CAPTURE…

Shut down: Stopped and released the active Audio-Device
Shut down: Destroyed the Player
Shut down: Destroyed the Document

GraphPort: Releasing DirectX…

Shut down: Destroyed the GraphPort
Shut down: Saving the Preferences
Shut down: Destroyed the Preferences
Shut down: App is down

Application: Exit OK

Vst3Plugs: Releasing: Native Instruments: Kontakt…
Vst3Plugs: Releasing: Native Instruments: Kontakt…

Application: Finalizing the API…

Closing log file…
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I can’t reproduce the error.

I’ve just installed Thrill which weighs a hefty 30GB and tested it with Kontakt 6 and Kontakt 7 player VST3 versions, made some automations and closed Renoise and can open the XRNS without issues on my old Win10 16GB system.

Do you know which preset you were using? maybe some takes a heavy toll on memory?

Thanks for your response Garf. I just used 2 modification parameters on a Thrill sound… (X mix and Y intensity). I was just making a modification so that the “blue ball” would look like a square for 2 patterns.
I’m using Win11 x64 with AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor 3.70 GHz with 48 GB Ram
However, I found the solution to my problem. I removed the VST, I reloaded the VST and…it works! Well, I just have to find the sounds and it should be good normally… In any case, thank you :wink: