Renoise 1.5

Help, Support & Bugs
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Hello,

I’m working with the new version for around 1 week and I’m having a little trouble about the Clipping thing.

in the older version had that DeClipper, what we turn off and we can easily see when our sound was clipping or not.

now have more options, but I think that I tried all combinations, and any of them I can see if is clipping or not. :(

I think have something wrong in the Color Theme config, because in all themes that I load, ANY of them works about the back ground color when the song is clipping.

In VUmetter Color Setting, in Back Clipped I think is like the old versions, when the sound is clipping the back of the VU turn to that color, I put RED.

But the only thing that changed is the square on the right, which is fixed and NEVER change, so I don’t see any meaning to this.

So we can’t see when is clipping anymore. :(

the other question is about BPM.

Nice that now I can read the REAL BPM in a song, but how can I change the REAL BPM??? I mean, 120 BPM = 119.9674 Real BPM.

How can I change to make 120 BPM, be REAL 120 BPM?

and How can I set a BPM like 120.150 BPM?? I tryed the help, but I don’t found anything about it. :(

about the Clipping thing is URGENT! or I’ll need to comeback to the earlier version to finish my works. I can’t work without know if is clipping or not.

thanks,
Freddy

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i dont know if i understood you correctly, but if you mean clipping indicator then it works fine here… :unsure:

but for the BPM issue, unfortunately you cant set precise BPM value.

PS! and if you set BPM in renoise and you wanna know what is the precise value, look in the song properties! cause if you set for example 130 BPM then actually the tempo is 130,0108 etc…

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Now I understand… how it works was changed. :)

not more the back of VU that turn to RED, but only the square in the right. and isn’t reseted after I stop and start to play in a low volume, but only by clicking with the mouse in that square. like many other softwares, no problem about it.

that’s why was always the same to me, I never tryed to reset the clipping indicator because before was automatically. problem solved! :)

this could be added in the help, specially because is really different than all the older versions. so more people could be confused with that too. :P

about the real BPM, seeing the real BPM that I started to search about how to change the exact BPM… hehhe

is much difficult to made that BPM manually editable like you done in all the effects settings values?

just click upside the BPM and open a text field to enter a value, in this case the REAL BPM that we want.

maybe in the version 1.5c?? or in 1.6? :)

thanks for everything, Renoise is becoming better each day. :)

Freddy

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the problem with real bmp is that you can not assign precise value to it… its because technical limitations, ticks in renoise are not so precise as i understand…

so if you enter for example 130 BPM then renoise uses closest possible value to 130 which is 130,0108 and so on with other BPMs

some BPMs do mach though, like 125 BPM for example.

I think the problem will be solved when timing in renoise will be improved.
Im really looking forward to that… its number 1 in my wish list :) cause it will really help in “human” feel beet programming and groove quantisation.

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The exact BPM is only really need in my case because I’m doing many remix work outhere, and I receive few parts of the songs, specially the vocals, to use in my remix.

But sometimes I never found a good BPM to work with it, and become a pain to made these wavs fit in a different BPM, that I even know the exact BPM.

But now that we can see the exact BPM which Renoise is using, it’s only use a sound forge like program to move the BPM of the wav from the original one to the Renoise BPM.

Is better than nothing, but I think will work. :D

I never thought that real BPM will be so difficult to make in Renoise. :P

thanks again.
Freddy

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Why not sync Renoise to Cubase and lay down to vocals in Cubase. That will save the hours it takes to get vocals fitting properly in Renoise!!!

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I never tryed to sync Renoise with any other software. is that difficult?

anyway I’ll need to convert the BPM to fit with Renoise BPM, or can I control the Renoise BPM with Cubase/Sonar?

is that possible?

Freddy

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It is easier to slave other audio apps to Renoise since other audio apps are more time-flexible than Renoise.
Some exact bpm rates are impossible with Renoise if you don’t use a certain speed / bpm combination.

But if you do, it will probably as doable to slave Renoise to another app.
But i’ve never tried this myself since i don’t use any other app.

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I don’t use any other apps too. And if I can’t set the exact BPM using other apps, I really don’t need to use them anyway. ;)

So let’s wait until Renoise can do that alone. :D

Thanks,
Freddy

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That will probably take a while.
Because if Renoise can do exact BPM rate calculation, there will be a tickless environment (and this will be a lot of work to code).