Renoise 3 speculation thread

My hope is for:
-native soundfont support
-native convolution reverb
-arrangement features that would link up nicely to a launchpad.

Hello tracker community, “new guy” here, just getting my first post out of the way…what I’d like to see? Well, I’m new, so I can’t really say with any professional authority what to include at this point…just keep doing what you do, right?!? I come from a sequencer that isn’t seeing any more action on the update front, very refreshing to come across this. I’m intimidated but ready to learn, even those pesky hexadecimals. Good day—

Dude, that’d be sweet.

Hmmm. Why not!

Welcome! Out of curiosity, what were you using that’s not being updated any more?

I’m find all these replace-a-vst requests to be kind of narrow. Yes, native integration would be slick, but I’d much rather see things like lua scripting that open up an entire new world of possibilities rather than one more synth/effect to tick off the checklist.

For example, one reason why people keep asking for native X may be that setting up synth instrument automation is more of a hassle than it should be. If VST automation could be made more “native-like” maybe people would ask for this stuff less.

I’m probably alone in this but I’m interested in the native synth because I Renoise on my shitty netbook a lot and I think a native synth would probably be easier on the poor little thing’s cpu.

Also, every VST isn’t available on every platform.

This. I want to be able to do cool synth stuff and still be able to open the same xrns on Linux or pass it off to Linux users like Daed.

I agree, the idea of just having an xrns file that “just works” is very appealing.

Hi Wahrk, thanks for the welcome mate. The studio in question is Podium - I didn’t want to mention their name and make it look like I was badmouthing them, as its been really good for me, and I still intend to keep it around.I think Frits the developer has been quite busy with his day job and the updates just aren’t there anymore. Podium’s still nice though.
I came to Renoise because I’m an old school jungle/hardcore fan and want to do the scene right. I figured if they used trackers to create that complex of a sound in ye olde 1994, then that’s gotta be the right way. Though the more I study it I’m realizing it’s good for any style! Also, the fact that I’m older and need to stretch my brain in a new direction or face collapse in one way or another.
Sorry for being off topic here…be seeing you-

Oh heck yeah. Podium is extra nifty. I haven’t checked up on it in a while.

Renoise is quite amazing in numerous regards, and I’m sure you’ll have a blast with it. And when you’ve got questions or ideas, the forum will be here. ;)

in renoise 3 i will finally be able to make a music

Sure, if you have got a launchpad with 1024 pads. That’s probably what 3.0 will be about: more live stuff for people who don’t want to hear the same pattern twice. So much for programming music. Mark my words, hardcore tracker guys will cry.

You think so?

Live sequencing based on realtime interaction with touch/pad hardware devices seems to be the trend today in music production. Of course, one could always consider such “organic” focus to add another dimension to music programming, in the same way as regular automations and modulations do. Still, it’s not hardcore tracking in the sense of having atomic level control and manually programming the stuff directly from mind to notes in the pattern editor.

All I’m saying is that I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the general route Renoise will take for 3.0 (and in the future beyond that). When taktik said that some core things about Renosie had to be rewritten for this upcoming version, my best guess would be that he specifically referred to the way tracks within patterns are handled. Up to the current official version 2.8, a track or selection within a pattern couldn’t be triggered and handled separately from the pattern that contained it. This is what I think taktik & co has changed, since that’s the real engine limitation that stands in the way for such features as linear arrangers, clip based sequencing, piano rolls, and a bunch of other popular requests.

If that limitation was removed, Renoise could trigger a complex percussion sequence in pattern 22 while at the same time playing a bassline from pattern 47 in sync. Renoise would be able to playback multiple selections from different locations in the song at the same time, making it ideal for live sequencing while still retaining atomic control in post-production editing mode (making the pattern editor really focused on editing). As a feature in itself, it wouldn’t seem like a major step forward, but put within a broader context, such a feature would be extremely radical and open up the doors for the arrangers, clips, pianorolls and other features to be fully implemented.

I’d cry with joy if thats what the Renoise dudes are up to! :D/>
With choke and mute groups it would be insane composing live. This describes a working method which could be possible if your theory is right…

http://tweakheadz.com/sampling-software/

Fingers crossed! :D

Maybe somekind of arranger window in which you can drag the pattern matrix blocks?

This is my reason for supporting those requests as well. My aim for future releases is to have everything native so I that can also give out the .xrns with no external dependencies. The less I have to ‘render down’, the more that people can see how Renoise is being used and make their own changes.

Ableton is completely obsolete in my opinion. Renoise has all the tools necessary for production and performance.

You’re not alone. I really wish for native synth, too!

timestretch, clips and audio tracks