Renoise on Linux via Wine is better than native linux renoise? Serious

[Ivno]

Which sound system are you using in Linux applications by default, and which one does WINE use by default?
I’m not even sure that is the issue, but there must be something that the native application uses (by default of the OS, probably) that makes it choke, which WINE does not and thus runs better.

[unclechu]

@Conner_Bw

Thanks for the video. It helps a lot.

I’m running Ubuntu 12.10 on a Lenovo X220, with Unity, and the slowness you are showing in the video is not normal.

This is a bug with your setup, not “Renoise on Linux via Wine is better…”, hopefully we can solve it.

Can you provide machine specs? (CPU, Video Card, Etc.)

I’m tryed using Renoize on Openbox too, horizontally scrolling all the same still slow.

  
uname -a  
Linux unclechu-xubuntu 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:32:50 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux  
  

My computer is a HP Pavilion dv6-3090er Entertainment
AMD Phenom™ II P920 Quad-Core Processor
Chiset: AMD RS880M
RAM: 4096 DDR-3
HD: SATA HD 7200
Video: Two cards for energy economy and high acceleration:
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1024 Мб GDDR3
ATI 4250 + ATI 5650

  
cat /proc/meminfo   
MemTotal: 3352260 kB  
MemFree: 2334872 kB  
Buffers: 1556 kB  
Cached: 506600 kB  
SwapCached: 0 kB  
Active: 624464 kB  
Inactive: 281936 kB  
Active(anon): 399252 kB  
Inactive(anon): 10540 kB  
Active(file): 225212 kB  
Inactive(file): 271396 kB  
Unevictable: 0 kB  
Mlocked: 0 kB  
HighTotal: 2493736 kB  
HighFree: 1570680 kB  
LowTotal: 858524 kB  
LowFree: 764192 kB  
SwapTotal: 1500156 kB  
SwapFree: 1500156 kB  
Dirty: 144 kB  
Writeback: 0 kB  
AnonPages: 398272 kB  
Mapped: 99028 kB  
Shmem: 11548 kB  
Slab: 50976 kB  
SReclaimable: 33248 kB  
SUnreclaim: 17728 kB  
KernelStack: 2312 kB  
PageTables: 5972 kB  
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB  
Bounce: 0 kB  
WritebackTmp: 0 kB  
CommitLimit: 3176284 kB  
Committed_AS: 1304464 kB  
VmallocTotal: 122880 kB  
VmallocUsed: 27528 kB  
VmallocChunk: 90956 kB  
HardwareCorrupted: 0 kB  
AnonHugePages: 0 kB  
HugePages_Total: 0  
HugePages_Free: 0  
HugePages_Rsvd: 0  
HugePages_Surp: 0  
Hugepagesize: 4096 kB  
DirectMap4k: 12280 kB  
DirectMap4M: 897024 kB  
  

  
cat /proc/cpuinfo   
processor : 0  
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD  
cpu family : 16  
model : 5  
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II P920 Quad-Core Processor  
stepping : 3  
microcode : 0x10000b6  
cpu MHz : 800.000  
cache size : 512 KB  
physical id : 0  
siblings : 4  
core id : 0  
cpu cores : 4  
apicid : 0  
initial apicid : 0  
fdiv_bug : no  
hlt_bug : no  
f00f_bug : no  
coma_bug : no  
fpu : yes  
fpu_exception : yes  
cpuid level : 5  
wp : yes  
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt nodeid_msr npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save  
bogomips : 3192.17  
clflush size : 64  
cache_alignment : 64  
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual  
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate  
  
processor : 1  
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD  
cpu family : 16  
model : 5  
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II P920 Quad-Core Processor  
stepping : 3  
microcode : 0x10000b6  
cpu MHz : 800.000  
cache size : 512 KB  
physical id : 0  
siblings : 4  
core id : 1  
cpu cores : 4  
apicid : 1  
initial apicid : 1  
fdiv_bug : no  
hlt_bug : no  
f00f_bug : no  
coma_bug : no  
fpu : yes  
fpu_exception : yes  
cpuid level : 5  
wp : yes  
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt nodeid_msr npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save  
bogomips : 3192.02  
clflush size : 64  
cache_alignment : 64  
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual  
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate  
  
processor : 2  
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD  
cpu family : 16  
model : 5  
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II P920 Quad-Core Processor  
stepping : 3  
microcode : 0x10000b6  
cpu MHz : 800.000  
cache size : 512 KB  
physical id : 0  
siblings : 4  
core id : 2  
cpu cores : 4  
apicid : 2  
initial apicid : 2  
fdiv_bug : no  
hlt_bug : no  
f00f_bug : no  
coma_bug : no  
fpu : yes  
fpu_exception : yes  
cpuid level : 5  
wp : yes  
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt nodeid_msr npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save  
bogomips : 3192.01  
clflush size : 64  
cache_alignment : 64  
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual  
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate  
  
processor : 3  
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD  
cpu family : 16  
model : 5  
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II P920 Quad-Core Processor  
stepping : 3  
microcode : 0x10000b6  
cpu MHz : 800.000  
cache size : 512 KB  
physical id : 0  
siblings : 4  
core id : 3  
cpu cores : 4  
apicid : 3  
initial apicid : 3  
fdiv_bug : no  
hlt_bug : no  
f00f_bug : no  
coma_bug : no  
fpu : yes  
fpu_exception : yes  
cpuid level : 5  
wp : yes  
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt nodeid_msr npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save  
bogomips : 3192.04  
clflush size : 64  
cache_alignment : 64  
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual  
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate  
  

  
lspci  
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS880 Host Bridge  
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx)  
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0)  
00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1)  
00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)  
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]  
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller  
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller  
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller  
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller  
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 41)  
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)  
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller (rev 40)  
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (rev 40)  
00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller  
00:16.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller  
00:16.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller  
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration  
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map  
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller  
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control  
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control  
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]  
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]  
02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5000 Series]  
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)  
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)  
  

@Conner_Bw

Which sound system are you using in Linux applications by default, and which one does WINE use by default?
I’m not even sure that is the issue, but there must be something that the native application uses (by default of the OS, probably) that makes it choke, which WINE does not and thus runs better.

Yes, default, ALSA for Wine and for native version. I’m tryed using native version with JACK too. I’m sure — it’s a bug.

I’m waiting for fixing this issue before buy Renoise.

[vvoois (vV)]

@unclechu

Video: Two cards for energy economy and high acceleration:
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1024 Мб GDDR3
ATI 4250 + ATI 5650

I don’t know if a dual video card really enhances the performance here specially because you are not using equally specified gpu’s.
It could be that Wine is not designed to address two video cards simultaneously this way, hence Renoise (or any other particular game or X11 app) runs better in Wine.
Have tried running other 3D X11 applications and games and see if they are running smoothly with that setup?

You don’t need to feel forced to buy Renoise at all btw, but your situation is simply not common and perhaps not easy fix if it really is a Renoise problem, but i highly doubt that in this case.

[rhowaldt]

@unclechu: Openbox isn’t really that much lighter than Xfce, and it seems indeed that the lightness of your setup might not be the issue. since you say you experience the lagging in GUI only (right? no audio lag?), this suggests it is an issue with your graphics setup. which driver are you using for the ATI card? (ATI is notoriously crappy on Linux and drivers might make a huge difference here)

[Tom_de_Rooy]

could you try sudo apt-get install cpufreq-indicator and set it to performance?
I also had slowdowns, but when set to performance its running great

[unclechu]

@rhowaldt

@unclechu: Openbox isn’t really that much lighter than Xfce, and it seems indeed that the lightness of your setup might not be the issue. since you say you experience the lagging in GUI only (right? no audio lag?), this suggests it is an issue with your graphics setup. which driver are you using for the ATI card? (ATI is notoriously crappy on Linux and drivers might make a huge difference here)

I tested on linux free video drives and on ATI proprietary drivers too. Lagging in GUI only, yes, it’s true, no audio lags.

[rhowaldt]

^ good job testing all the options!
i remember having GUI lags on Linux with Renoise, and taktik explained it because of my Jack settings that had a really high latency or something. not sure. cannot seem to locate the thread. sadly, this is all the info i got for you from here on out. i am not a Linux guru so cannot help you further, and very sorry for it. hope you solve your issue in the end, and at least you can still work through Wine :S

[Kane]

@It-Alien

try changing the first two options in

Edit => Preferences => GUI

try also lowering the framerate in the preferences

this is certainly not a bug in Renoise since you seem to be the only one with this problem; more likely a problem with your video adapter Linux drivers

I also have the problem of Renoise GUI not working well in Linux, and i’ve tried open source driver and my current driver is the latest proprietary ATI. Every other program I’ve tried runs smoothly.

System specs:

❯ uname -a
Linux maui-wowie 3.2.0-35-lowlatency #34-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 18 18:12:15 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

❯ cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 16435712 kB
MemFree: 14253588 kB
Buffers: 67084 kB
Cached: 955340 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 948220 kB
Inactive: 603080 kB
Active(anon): 634604 kB
Inactive(anon): 26864 kB
Active(file): 313616 kB
Inactive(file): 576216 kB
Unevictable: 104840 kB
Mlocked: 104840 kB
SwapTotal: 16775164 kB
SwapFree: 16775164 kB
Dirty: 404 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 633712 kB
Mapped: 349492 kB
Shmem: 132596 kB
Slab: 81796 kB
SReclaimable: 53980 kB
SUnreclaim: 27816 kB
KernelStack: 3160 kB
PageTables: 23516 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 24993020 kB
Committed_AS: 2173680 kB
VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB
VmallocUsed: 332332 kB
VmallocChunk: 34359399328 kB
HardwareCorrupted: 0 kB
AnonHugePages: 0 kB
HugePages_Total: 0
HugePages_Free: 0
HugePages_Rsvd: 0
HugePages_Surp: 0
Hugepagesize: 2048 kB
DirectMap4k: 265792 kB
DirectMap2M: 3928064 kB
DirectMap1G: 12582912 kB

❯ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 10
model name : AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor
stepping : 0
microcode : 0x10000bf
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 6
core id : 0
cpu cores : 6
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips : 6416.27
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb

processor : 1
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 10
model name : AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor
stepping : 0
microcode : 0x10000bf
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 6
core id : 1
cpu cores : 6
apicid : 1
initial apicid : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips : 6416.40
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb

processor : 2
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 10
model name : AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor
stepping : 0
microcode : 0x10000bf
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 6
core id : 2
cpu cores : 6
apicid : 2
initial apicid : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips : 6416.40
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb

processor : 3
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 10
model name : AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor
stepping : 0
microcode : 0x10000bf
cpu MHz : 3200.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 6
core id : 3
cpu cores : 6
apicid : 3
initial apicid : 3
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips : 6416.40
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb

processor : 4
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 10
model name : AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor
stepping : 0
microcode : 0x10000bf
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 6
core id : 4
cpu cores : 6
apicid : 4
initial apicid : 4
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips : 6416.41
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb

processor : 5
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 10
model name : AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor
stepping : 0
microcode : 0x10000bf
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 6
core id : 5
cpu cores : 6
apicid : 5
initial apicid : 5
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips : 6416.41
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb

❯ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS880 Host Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0)
00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1)
00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3c)
00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper XT [AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series]
01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
03:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6315 Series Firewire Controller (rev 01)
04:00.0 PCI bridge: PLX Technology, Inc. PEX8112 x1 Lane PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge (rev aa)
05:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio]

[taktik]

Could you guys also post a snippet from your Renoise logs, so we can see your audio settings?
A lag as shown here in the video watch?v=P8yUFbuSM_c of course is not how Renoise usually runs natively in Renoise.

Have you also tried if disabling/enabling desktop effects, compiz and stuff makes a difference on your setups?

[delt]

Running xfce 4.10 here, both with and without compositing. I haven’t used the windows version extensively, but both versions seem to run about the same. In the linux version, sometimes when my sound card settings aren’t optimal, the VU bars and scopes become all sluggish, but the rest of the interface responds normally.

[Cas]

Yo. Just throwing in what I’ve seen. Newer laptops with saving-battery-on-simple-video-cards technology from either firms, have a bunch of trouble getting proper linux support. I’ve used AVLinux on my desktop PC for production for a long time, no problems. When I just got my laptop (with NVidia “Optimus”, which is in this case definitely not the best) I couldn’t even get AVL to launch from cd. So I had to switch to KXStudio. It only recognized the NV card, never used the Intel one. Now I’ve returned it for repair 2 times already, I’m sticking with windows .

[Wizzbit]

I have had the same problem here. The issue appears if you use the ALSA device of Renoise. Using JackD solves the problem, That’s why it also works in wine,In wine Renoise does not claim the full alsa device, there is a layer between Renoise and ALSA through wine, just like with JackD that creates also a layer between Renoise and ALSA. At least thats what i think that happens. On some systems its probbably an issue if Renoise claims the full ALSA device. Other applications cannot play there sounds and i think that there are apps fighting over the ALSA device while Renoise keeps it claimed.
I have Jackd standard running for renoise now, and for me it works like a charm, also other application are able to play there sounds when needed.
Only changing desktop creates Crackles, but hey, when you are create a song you don’t have to switch />.

For the ones that are instrested:

sudo apt-get install jackd qjackctl.

Start qjackctl and start the JackD server. There are probably better ways to start jackd, but this was quick way for me to test this with jackd.

[robotrobot]

This may seem off topic but using Linux for music making is just silly. that said, some of the smartest people I know use Linux for all there personal computing needs, but they aren’t musicians.

[unclechu]

Now I’m using Fedora 19, and Renoise works faster than on Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian/Calculate Linux. Horizontal scroll works fine.

[kazakore]

@unclechu

Now I’m using Fedora 19, and Renoise works faster than on Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian/Calculate Linux. Horizontal scroll works fine.

Do you use CCRMA and the RT kernel? Or have the finally managed to release the official Fedora Music distro they have been promising for some time now? (I know I could Google that…) I always had issues getting Fedora working smoothly with my hardware for some reason.

[unclechu]

@kazakore

Do you use CCRMA and the RT kernel? Or have the finally managed to release the official Fedora Music distro they have been promising for some time now? (I know I could Google that…) I always had issues getting Fedora working smoothly with my hardware for some reason.

I’m using standard Fedora 19 LXDE.
In big projects it still slow, but in any case faster that other distros what I use.

[kazakore]

It’s not the one I was looking for but just found there is a spin called Fedora Jam for musicians.

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/jam-kde/

Unless it is actually an offshoot of the original Audio Creation spin project, which states it should have had a version ready for Fc18 but I don’t recall ever actually seeing (but haven’t followed it for a while.)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_creation_spin_development?rd=AudioCreationSpinDevelopment

(EDIT: Hmmmm… KDE. Really??? For “both” audio related Spins.)

I initially thought I would try Fedora as most of the linux-based boxes I came across at work at the time were RHEL, recently (well during my currect role) I’ve come across a lot of Ubuntu too. Therefore I’ve decided to give the Ubuntu Studio 12.04lts a go again…

[carmazine]

Try AVLinux or KXStudio .ISO

[kazakore]

@carmazine

Try AVLinux

And be limited to a 32bit system. no thanks.

or KXStudio

Why KXStudio over Ubuntu Studio. It’s based on Ubuntu (same version as I chose to install) but uses the heavyweight, resource-hungry KDE desktop environment rather than the nice and lightweight XFCE one which Ubuntu Studio uses and has always been my preference anyway.

[carmazine]

@kazakore

Why KXStudio over Ubuntu Studio. It’s based on Ubuntu (same version as I chose to install) but uses the heavyweight, resource-hungry KDE desktop environment rather than the nice and lightweight XFCE one which Ubuntu Studio uses and has always been my preference anyway.

You can always choose the middleground and install KXStudio repository on vanilla Ubuntu/Xubuntu and add only those programs you actually need. I second your opinion on KDE.