can it be that the reverbs in Renoise are a bit on the low quality side?
If I compare them to some of the free reverbs VSTi I had on Windows, the Renoise ones have a very metal sounding and noise tail.
Do you experience this as well, or do I just tweak them not enough?
yes renoise reverb is not very good
more like a fast echo than a reverb, and its only got 1 kind of reverb sound, low quality metalic.
you can make it sound a little better with eq and filters, but i tend not to use it at all
there are tons of way better sounding free reverbs
Renoises “Reverb” device indeed is not that fancy, but the “mpReverb” is not that bad at all?
Should we remove the “Reverb” then? I actually like it because of the metallic sound. There are plenty of standard plugin verbs available which do the “natural sounding reverb” job just fine.
I’ve been using mpReverb all the time lately. It sounds good, and appears to be low on CPU. To be honest, for whatever reason i’ve not really checked out the plain old ‘Reverb’ DSP; just saw ‘mpReverb,’ loaded it instead, and proceeded to use it ‘all the time.’ The only VST reverb i’ve been using is ‘poor plate.’
A lot of the VST reverbs seem to be; moderately to extremely heavy on CPU usage.
I´ve also noticed a slight metal sound with the Renoise reverb, but I don´t know about the noise tail part… Could be that my ears are still “poisened” from the bad effects of my previous DAW… Now there was some really nice noice tails, hehe.
Definitely not! Even though it does have a rather lo-fi sound, it’s still very useful. There have been many times where I want that sound, and deliberately use it instead of mpReverb or other plugins. Not to mention that I often perform extra filtering to the reverb sound, and process it so heavily that its lo-fi quality doesn’t even matter anymore.
@Everyone else… You should keep in mind how complex and notoriously difficult it can be to create a good reverb. People/Companies can often spend many months - or even years - perfecting their proprietary algorithms, in order to get them sounding as natural as possible. When considering the size of the Renoise development team and the scale of the project itself (ie. a small amount of people doing a huge amount of work), I don’t think we can really expect to see native effects that can fully compete with other standalone products. If you need more specialised effects, then there’s an entire market of commercial VST/AU products out there that you can choose from, all of which should work just fine in Renoise.
I use both. Mostly mpReverb for clean reverbs: pads, synthalike sound and whatnot. But the Reverb is useful mainly to throw on a drumish sound for example… Just came home from school, I’m not making a lot of sense… pfioe
only use the mpreverb out of Renoise next to good (free)wares, has a useful sound + most importantly, a low hit on cpu. I wouldn’t mind if the the ‘standard’ reverb would get deprecated and we got a lusher sounding verb in return, not a big deal.
I was also not only talking about the Reverb, but also about mpReverb. What I mean is that the tail is kind of noise, don’t know how to better describe that
It is not a big deal, I was just saying that a more clean reverb would be nice so we could use that in a more standard way (as an effect while mixing, not for sound design only).
i like “Ambience” a lot: Ambience on kvr (donationware),
though it’s quite heavy on the cpu. i think it’s more suitable for send tracks or even the master track.