What makes you think this way? Are you referring to those who would like to buy an upgrade? I assume, because there is no other option. The “Renoise company” gets the same amount of money, whether they’re selling version 3.4, version 4.4 or whatever version, it doesn’t matter. And someone who’s interested in buying and using Renoise gives a shit about the version. You take what’s available. When I bought Renoise 2.7.2 I didn’t expect to get any updates. I used exactly this version for 8 years and I didn’t miss anything, because that’s what I’ve paid for and what I’ve expected. I only switched to version 3.1 because of compatibility reasons.
you’re right.
I think it’s perhaps that some of us are hungry for more native features, especially when there is a perceived lack - relative to some of the other offerings on the market. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love renoise just as it is, love the workflow and efficiency, but I’d personally love to see more robust/continous/accelerated development cycles, or at least a shoring up of renoise’s weak points, of which there are several I can think of off the top of my head.
That said, for the price and feature set, it is an incredible deal. If it’s staying afloat as a business model, all the better
long live renoise
You used it 8 years without missing anything?!? Thats nice for you, but your own personally experience is not authoritative or exemplary for other people of the community. As long i had produced only instrumental songs with renoise i missed nothing too, but one day i want produce a Track with a real voiceline track, and in this moment i get aware of the weakness of Renoise on this area. Much great worser as this, is the production of a remix with syncing a voicetrack with specific bpm to new own melodies. You mostly have to cut the voicetrack in many slices and have to sync it over sample linesync options. But after the limiting this Value to 512 in many cases this fails. In past you could turn this Value upto 999, which was much easier to sync and you dont need so much sliced pieces of the Voicetrack. In all, the Workflow for integration of pre or external recorded Voicetracks into Renoise is very laborious and not very effective/produtive. So other Users with other use cases have other priorities than you personally.
happy tracking
You’re right, other users do have other priorities. But you always have to keep in mind that in the end Renoise is a tracker. If you wish to mix vocal tracks over instrumentals in perfection a tracker is not the right tool. You need to think about your expectations. In the past I also did some Rap. I did the beat in Renoise and the vocal mixing in Cool Edit Pro. Of course I didn’t expect to do that in Renoise. Happy tracking.
The old story of the Tracker paradigm… And Cool Edit Pro… i use it in the middle to late 90’ years. I thought more on such as the Reason Wavetrack to Sequencer/Wavetrack to Midinote Information Sync function!
happy tracking
Mhhh… i like Renoise and its simplicity as a DAW, especially the device handling and the mixer chain workflow. Redux on the end is only a sampler plugin. Not a way to create own compositions. In my opinion, taktik should upsize the developer pool. There are many people in the community which would want to contribute any on the Renoise Project because they like it i think. So the first step would be to bring this people together and connect with the Renoise staff crew. Maybe on a Mailing list (old) or over a Discord (actually), but this naturally can only happens if the Renoise Team wants it.
happy tracking
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Did you work in marketing or something? The verbiage is spot on
No, I’m just a lifelong cynic with a natural facility for pattern-spotting.
It’s about time this turned into a ‘why wont they put piano roll in renoise’ thread
Of course. You’re not very active in this forum, but if you write something you’re always demanding things which are completely uncommon for a tracker. At least I’ve got the impression that you’re simply using the wrong DAW. I think Cubase and else is what you need. But I know what you’re after and of course a further development is always welcome. Provided it makes sense…
Yeah! And if you also stick with Spotify you’re getting showered with 0,003 cents PER STREAM, dude! What a fucking great combination! It couldn’t get any better than this!
Absolutely
probably everyone who has become a user of renoise goes through a stage of unjustified expectations, including me. However, I can speak from personal experience. as soon as I turned to research in sound design, I discovered a lot of interesting things. as a result, I seriously revised the approach as a whole, both in writing and in mixing the sound in general. Believe me, without mastering what has been honed over the years, you risk missing out on a lot. if we discard that this is a tracker, then this is a really cool synthesizer and sampler.
Sorry for my strange English
Not me and not those who were using trackers before Renoise even existed.
Good point! Renoise is already more than a common tracker, it’s an extended tracker, something advanced. That’s another reason why I can only shake my head if someone is permanently asking for uncommon stuff just like a piano roll or whatever. Instead of whining people should be glad and thankful that Renoise can do what Renoise already can do. Bearing that in mind I can only agree with @PSG that “Renoise is almost perfect”.
Yes! Really interesting and totally unique sounds can be forged in renoise. Often because of, and not in spite of, its limitations. That said, I still want some more native dsp