say i got a sample with a volume envelope applied. say i want to reverse that sample (through the B0-command in the volume column). what if i also want the envelope to go in reverse? what about, in addition to having B0/B1, ‘reverse/re-reverse’, we’d have something like B2/B3, ‘reverse/re-reverse including envelopes’?
cool stuff: reverse a sample including envelopes with B2, then re-reverse using B1, leaving you with a forward sample and a reversed envelope. could yield from pretty cool results if you ask me.
seriously you guys, is there no-one that is the least bit interested in this feature? even nobody to tell me what bullshit this idea is, or suggest an alternative solution?
i am with you on the whole ultimate envelope control thing. in the meantime:
make two instruments, one normal and a ‘reverse’ one? i know you already thought of this, so not much of a suggestion, but… this might not be as much of a compromise as it seems because maybe you decide you wanna tweak the reverse instrument later without affecting the normal one.
don’t listen to me, though, cause i’m so lazy i will make and load up new samples just for reverse cymbals and stuff. not so bad though, cause i can make the backwards ones end where i want them and i don’t screw with the regular samples if i like then as they are.
alternative solutions:
-render sample, do the reverse pattern effect command on the rendered sample…
-copy/paste the same instrument reverse the envelopes…
I like your idea, since it’s less work than the given solutions.
@The Witch Kings + @vincentvc:
i agree with you there are different options for achieving the same thing. also, lately i’ve been a bit more critical towards some suggestions, because i feel sometimes people (myself included) suggest things that are simply easier, but not really necessary. this might be one of those ideas.
however, i am happy you all (even you vV!) decided to at least reply to this idea. i hate it when i post something and there is no reply whatsoever, which is why i kept bumping this. so, thanks for that, and the suggestions of course.
XM has the Lxx effect, which is envelope offset. This should be available in Renoise as well I think. By that you could have a ping-pong envelope and use offset to simulate reverse, I guess.
