ReWire alternative/solution (4 years later)?

As many others I was one of those who was so disappointed when ReWire was discontinued. But now it has been a few years so one would expect to find some decent alternative.

So, not being very active or updated with current events I was just wondering how you guys solved this issue?

Maybe you’re doing some workarounds you could share?

Or if there are some interesting products in development?

Let’s look forward and find the next thing! :sparkles:

And yes, I’ve read about Blue Cat Connector and Ableton Link but they don’t have the transport control as far as I’m concerned so it doesn’t sound they are comparable or even worth the hassle. Or prove me wrong.

I’m a Logic + Renoise user.

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I’m guessing something like Virtual Audio Cable would be missing certain features as well?

I’ve been using this for strange routing schemes on Windoze, but it looks like they have a Mac version as well. Used in conjunction with some loopbacks, you might be able to rig up a transport control of sorts if you’re crafty enough. I’d help out with jerry-rigging a solution but no Mac for me

Unfortunately, I don’t know of anything that provides the same functionality that Rewire used to. Another user in this thread

was able to get some use out of a plugin called Rewire VST by XT Software.

But really, the idea of running Renoise as a VST plugin inside another host is very attractive to me, assuming they get the transport synch, etc. implemented correctly, and I hope the Renoise developers consider it.

If you want just synchronized 2 app in osx you can try to use native iac driver. Check audio midi preference and activated this tool. I used this device with tidalcycles+ renoise.

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I can’t remember how rewire exactly worked, but there is support for ableton link now. Perhaps it covers what you want?

Thanks! But sorry, I have no idea what you’re taking about. :man_shrugging:

Thanks, I’ll look into Rewire VST. But I doubt it has the same functionality, because I’ve read that VST can’t affect the transportbar somehow.

Regarding Renoise as a VST, I fully agree. That would be even better than Rewire. :dizzy:

Thanks. Will it work like Rewire, so that you can use the transportbar in both apps including tempo-sync, etc?

its midi protocol, without audio export to another DAW . just note control cc automate and temp synchronize (Master or Slave)

Thanks.

I’ve read about Ableton Link, yes. But it seems it doesn’t have the transport-functionality like Start/Stop according to taktik in this thread. He said that it will be implemented in a future version though (two years ago).

I’ve read that Logic has this funcionality so I have to try this out and see if that’s the only difference to Rewire and get back to this.

Ok, with other words not like Rewire if I’m not mistaken. But thanks anyway.

its is a stable native midi utility. I think it is more stable compared to Ableton link.

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JACK Audio Connection Kit is on Mac and has a transport function IIRC.

I’ve tried this now. Link in Renoise sync only tempo. So if it could sync start/stop and song position it would be the same as Rewire. On Links part these functions exists, so it’s only up to implemention in Renoise.

Interesting that ReWire could be implemented at a VST level.

Were you seeing sample-accurate sync just like host-level ReWire? Any downsides?

Hi everyone!

Just wanted to share a bit about how I’ve been working lately – and also ask if anyone knows of a modern way to link two DAWs without using Rewire.

I’ve started taking my music more seriously, and to combine what I love most about Renoise (drums, bass, and little tricks) with what I rely on Logic for (like everything else), I’ve been exporting stems back and forth. It takes a lot of time – especially when making small changes – but I’ve found that it actually makes me think more carefully and work more intentionally.

I used to work with Rewire, but since that’s no longer an option, I’m wondering:

:point_right: Is there any modern alternative to Rewire?
Or a smoother way to sync Renoise with other DAWs in real time?

Would really appreciate any tips – or if anyone wants to share how they handle cross-DAW workflows. :notes:

Renoise doesn’t currently support transport sync over Ableton Link, but I finally managed to get proper sync working using an IAC Driver. With some tweaking, Renoise now follows Logic’s transport – and while it’s not ReWire, it actually saves me a lot of time with the way my recent workflow was set up. :joy_cat:

Thanks for all the input in this thread so far — let’s hope a proper ReWire alternative shows up soon!

The only problem is that you can’t use ‘final rendering’

Little less sound quality

But exporting tracks in a linear DAW for a final mix,the result can be excellent
Some deharsh to do

Harsh is the opposite of liquid

I created a plugin (Windows only) that generates and outputs MIDI Beat Clock. I created it because I wanted to sync Renoise and Dorico, and Dorico does not have any clock output functionality.

It is probably most relevant for those who want to have Renoise controlled by (“slaved” to) another DAW. Software that creates virtual MIDI devices (such as loopMIDI) may be needed to send MIDI from one application to another.

It works by generating MIDI Beat Clock messages from the host’s transport/position information. It outputs Start, Stop, Continue, Song Position Pointer (SPP), and Clock Tick messages.

Available here:

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