Fact is that every time someone makes success someone else claims that he cheated. It’s a result of being jealous . (NOT saying u are jealous, u know that.) And electronic music in general is much about ripping and raping prerecorded sound material using means that computer technology provides. It’s really not how you do things, more like what you achieve. I think Shpongle guys made some great work with their loops and riffs. Whether I like the music is or not is completely different matter, but usually I find their music interesting at least on some level. Certainly it lacks some character (=too polished), and basically is just combining old things, but still I like it more or less. And it is not goa, for heavens sake. But who cares about genres anyway.