If you want to do a track that can be played by DJs you will need to have 1-1.30 minutes of pure drums (and maybe bass) at the beginning and end so djs can mix properly.
2 Breaks are normally standard but you can ofcourse just stick to one. And keep the buildup in mind.
Well allright SPDK; your next assignment, if you choose to accept it, will consist of analyzing the songstructure of your favourite technotrack, and subsequently post it in this thread. Sadly, this message will not selfdestruct
I’m gonna study techno tracks for some hours. If my track isn’t finished in two weeks, I will post it here, so you can tell me what to do. Maybe we can vote or do a poll
I hope the voting will not be necesarry (nasecarrie?) so I can post the whole track!
if it’s hard-techno, or schranz as some call it. one thing i notice alot is during the middle, you’ll get a build up (like a 90s trance snare buildup) no snare though, just lots of hiss, and slowly HPF everything up for a mega long time, then when it finally drops, there’s no HPF going on at all. it sounds so great. Ill have to find an example.
its your song, and we haven’t even heard it.
theres no way for us to tell you how to structure it.
you can always add another element for the break, even something subtle like a lp cutoff-lfo synched pad or something. Also, you can add in vocals to keep a break interesting.
if you’d post the song, i could help alot more.
as well, try listening to what you hear with your musical ear coming next.
That’s a good one, it’s not that I want to copy a song, but this gives me a good impression on how the song is put together and where I should put my breaks to get the same result. After that I can adjust it to my own taste of course.
Another problem with my arrangements is that I know how to tell the story. Every break is exactly as I wanted it it and every thing comes in the right place, but at the end my tracks are at least 10 minutes long. 10 minutes is too long for other people to listen to a track, let alone pressing it to vinyl.
really depends, if you are very good … mathew johnson and dominik eulberg did tracks that were up to 20 minutes (and they worked actually). also, one vinylside can contain 12 minutes of music.
This thread makes baby zombie jesus cry. Why on earth would one want to conform to the a blueprints laid out by a particular genre when they could just as easily make their own formula up and take over the world with it? Hell, what the heck is with formula music anyway? WHAT’S HAPPENED TO THE SOUL?!?!?! WHERE’S THE EMOTION?!?!?!
I don’t to want copy a complete song or style. I just want to take a closer look at tracks that inspire me to making my own music. I’m not to proud to say that I can learn a lot of the tracks made by Speedy J or the dj-sets by DJ Rush.
i dont know if you can do it this way very easily in a tracker (im a complete noob) but i reckon you should try just making a 16 or 32 bar loop and make this the main body of the song - as in this is the part that kicks in after the main breakdown - fill it up nice and proper with your leads etc… perhaps even over fill it - then copy that out over the length of the tune, and stick to building towards it… the track basically sequences itself that way, all you do is minimise and build interest by removing chunks… thats how i do it anyway…
As AnnonAshera said, I tried to hear what’s coming next with my musical ear, maybe my musical ear is not that creative but I’m really pleased with the result.
First: you are a “proud of yourself onanist” and you do music for you and you don t follow any rule and you don t care about it because you will never sell your music , it s too good for others
Second: you are a techno composer and you compose tracks for dj’s, to make records who ll be played in parties.
in this second case follow a simple rule: the rule of mix
start with the beat (intros are never played) simple
grow the beat and announce the theme discretely
mini break, the maintheme starts (the dj put off the other record)
do what you want until 1,30 mn to the end
ungrow the theme (the next record is coming with his simple beat)
ungrow the beat to make a cool outro and let space for the growing theme of next record
you can be even more precise by following exact number of sequences to make it perfectly sync with techno standart but i don t like so much this idea.
the first minute and the last minute has to be simple to let it mixable, that s the most important. If you don t do that, dj’s will have problems to mix it well and won t play your track!
Of course, within this structure you can do whatever the f**** you want, and mess around with anything, but if you are making techno for a party, you need to follow this.
Within this structure, you do still have a hell of a lot of freedom to do anything you like (compare minimal techno to super hard trance; they sound very different but use the same structure, and therefore can be mixed together)
Restrictions like this are often very good for getting the creative juices flowing too. When you are forced into a pattern, a lot of the creative decisions are made for you already, so you can throw all of your creativity into other areas.