Yes, seriously, what’s going on, I keep seeing flaming around here.
so it’s MY flamewar now? how does that work, I wonder? I mean, technically?
and the alternative? making a feature suggestion and getting told I’m a total moron, and sucking that up? where did I attack someone who did not first attack me? have you even paid the slightest attention to mr. bitarts and his antics? I get constantly flamed, and in comparison I respond with very little attacks and lots of reasoning, I don’t make HALF the jokes he’s inviting on himself, but I am the flamer and the troll. because he posted a bunch of DSP chains lately. oh, and thanks for your complete assessment of my psyche, lol. fuck you. frankly, at this point I’d rather be banned than suck up to some of you people. how would you feel in a forum where people basically get told to ignore you? because you wouldn’t cower? WTF. nuh-uh.
well, how I see it, this and this lead to this (well, basically he seems to have went around and delete every bit of precious advice he ever posted, then deleted his account, then came back with a sock puppet). that’s not helpful and prolly tl:dr, but I don’t feel like giving a summary either. everybody will tell you something different. like conner put it, “every time Johann posts, this happens”, which is why people don’t read what I post, so he created this thread to be helpful I guess. harr harr.
if that’s how you and “the community” read it, well then eject me, and pronto. to me it’s just a cheap fucking strawman argument but hey, be my guest.
The problem is, this has gone on far longer than it’s really worth…
It’s wasting space on the forum.
Noone cares…everyone just wants it to stop.
yeah, but everybody tells ME to stop, not the guy who is constantly flaming himself and now even blatantly lying? THAT is what gets me. that it’s my flame war and it’s just because I hate everything lol… how does one back down from that? If peeps had said “please stop feeding that troll NOW”, instead of glancing superficially and pointing at me because hey, that’s the easy knee-jerk option, I would have stopped talking back and just shrugged his mud off… but when it’s instead because “this happens every time Johann posts”, and about how I should ponder my egotism, go into a corner and be ashamed, while bitarts gets to be confirmed in his sad little delusions… fuck noez. fuck nevarz!
at the same time I can see how you guys don’t want to feed MY egotism, and that’s fair enough. but just outright twisting it into me having no other purpose than to flame these forums, that kinda closes my way out. as I said, not gonna suck up to that, and I’ve had it with conner’s little snipe jobs, too.
I mean, at least now we have a thread to talk about the flaming… would it help if I promise that IF I feel the need to reply to anything related to these matters from now on, I do it in here? locking/banning is a totally separate concern, que sera sera. just gimme my own thread and let me mumble to myself.
Why is this about Johann? Because he says it is?
The ignore list is for everyone.
Don’t reply.
no, because you said this and created this thread 9 minutes later. don’t even pretend lol.
I never knew what it was btw. I aeons ago said something deragotary about breakcore, you JUMPED IN MY FACE out of the utter blue in another thread shortly after that, muttering about breakcore, and since then I kinda get the feeling you hate my guts. I’m not saying it was because of that, but that’s when I started to notice/hallucinate it. nothing I could ever put my finger on, but I can’t recall anything friendly and you ALWAYS seem to like riding these things for that purpose, and how you’re being a coward about the creation of this thread kinda reassures this vague feeling of you having some kind of grudge against me.
“Don’t reply.”, is that some kind of order? what is this shit with you using this asshole and your status to get one in on me?
Dude
- I was addressing every troll in that thread
- You replied to me, assuming (incorrectly) that I was talking about you (Why can’t Bitarts and Seargent Duffy or Moonrider be an asshole?)
- I left one follow-up comment because you “holier than thou” me, as usual.
- I suggested, in general, in another thread, people “ignore” instead of flame.
- More flames… By you.
Don’t reply is advice on how to ignore. Chill the fuck out.
EDIT: Do you smoke a lot of dope and have reached the ultra paranoid stage? Something is out of control… I’ve seen friends go down like this.
uhuhmm. you said, to me “No one reads anything you posts because it’s guaranteed to turn into this.”
maybe YOU might take a step back and re-read that, and take it seriously, take it literally, and consider you’re a member of the core here. not that I’m into dragging THAT into it, but still, to me that’s highly bullyish and unfair. it’s just flat out not true, too. maybe YOU wish it was, and I guess I can’t do more than openly accuse you of holding a grudge and asking what it is… either it’s nothing or you’re not gonna spill, so cheers either way 
Hey,
Leave Mary Jane out of this, She’s done nothing to anyone 
Yes, that was my follow up, to your reply. I have forum behaviour problems too. Not proud of it. The general advice is to ignore, to myself, too.
fair enough. and hey, it’s not like I’m totally unaware of how boring this is. but it’s also kinda demeaning from the inside, being told to shut up because you happen have an innocent technical suggestion while someone would rather bask in the glory of how awesome they’re at using sends, because THEY won’t shut up either… I don’t care how much kindergarten that is - he DID start it, and it’s not like I barged into a discussion about sends with my ideas of dry/wet, to show off my great off-topic idea. ahh, I just have deep seated issues with being lied to/about, I never said I’m sane.
Can one of the admins/mods pm who’s ignoring me so I don’t try talking to them?
also, I highly recommend, turning off all avatars and images.
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Make music and don’t take shit to personally, like really. This is the internet. A place for us Renoise artists to mingle and feed off eachother. You know…NETWORK! Cummon man(s) if some1 calls me a fucking low life dumbass loser online im not going to take much offence. Really im not even going to take a second on thinking about it. WHO CARES! Lets just make music and have fun =D =D =D Live, Life, Laugh. Really it’s life’s to short.
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I’m not going to use it. I HAVE to learn to just skip past destructive comments, both as I’m scrolling and how they sit in my mind. If I can’t handle this here, then I can’t handle that in REAL life. So I’m just going to try to learn.
Since we can’t hand out tolerance, it would be nice if forum moderators kindly ask people to stay on topic and/or take their personal discussions through the personal messaging system.
The purpose of ignoring is that messages supposed to be kept out of sight in the first place so it looks like there ain’t anything to reply to.
As a moderator, i can assure anyone here that the use of this feature defeats the role and purpose of a moderator and an admin so this will not be used by me.
Why using an ignore feature when i can kick or ban instead?
Anyhow, i don’t understand why the trolling and flaming is so much necessary around here.
These are the checkpoints to follow in case anyone feels something is going to cause grieve or war around here:
-Make sure the remarks are intended as interpreted first by simply asking before firing back. Things seem to go easily beserk here because people misinterpret the message quite easily around here.
-If you are really the target and the contents are really meant to attack you on a personal basis:deal with the person in PM. Not in the thread.
-If you can’t get along with your quarrelpartner, then give us a message and then let’s sort it out together, but please really report if you cannot sort it out:We can’t watch every new post or thread that is being made here if things go wrong.
Follow this checklist and perhaps no one needs this ignore list.