The Midi Controllers

Evolution X-Session

M-Audio Keystation 49e

I’m rarely using them, so i’m more busy cleaning dust from them instead of fiddling with the knobs. :)

i am a big fan of the CME controllers i have a UF5:
http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/product-uf.html
though i havent used it properly in well over a year.

this site is really cool ,if your into building your own controllers

http://www.ucapps.de/

also check out this controller

http://traktorizer.de.vu/

Same here, I’m yet to find a really useful way to work with my Remote LE and BCR2000…

It’s interesting…but not surprising…that so many of us are not using the controllers we’ve bought.
I would conclude two things from this:

1: Renoise simply isn’t well suited for anything but simple parameter control (though I use a more advanced setup for live performance, I’m really happy with standard 16 rotary dials). I’ve written my own stuff using MIDIOX and Keykit, but it tends to be very specific, with a single purpose in mind, instead of the generic “monodeck” approach. And he forked out a lot of $$ and time on that one.

2: Renoise is great with a keyboard! Seriously, who needs a controller!!! People are mostly struck with what’s possible - realtime control over the music on a laptop, with no mouse and no controllers

How I see it, best of both worlds remain to have (recurring feature request) midi configurable keyboard shortcuts

Agreed about the keyboard shortcuts :yeah:

I think the future of midi control in software will be based around the idea of dynamically assigning controls. Some great examples include Propellerhead’s ReMote, Novation’s Automap and Cakewalk’s ACT.

Now that Renoise has a focus-based interface it’s already half way there IMO. It’s been suggested before as well,

http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?sho…c=13459&hl=
http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?sho…16&hl=focus

:walkman:

it would be cool,lets hope the devs sees this,would like to know if its that hard to implement,actually i would really like to know alittle more about what they will implement in renoise 2(even just a little hint) :D

AU support :P

hehe nice one,im on xp though

I know some of this is already in the pipeline but i can’t contain myself from being at least sort of an asshole ;)

Let’s hear it for Renoise letting us map more things so controllers become at least sort of useful beyond knob twiddling!

Let’s hear it for Renoise letting us map Aftertouch! Let’s hear it for Renoise letting us map channel mute/off, speed/bpm and post levels!

Let’s hear it for Renoise letting us automate the pitch wheel in an intuitive fashion!

Let’s hear it for post-record quantize!

But most of all;
Let’s hear it for Renoise adding a specific midi column so we don’t have to waste all our effect columns on midi data, and handle interpolation of values better in the process!

Seriously, i own a bunch of Midi controllers and use them for Ableton Live, but actually using midi for composing in Renoise is a nightmare at this point.
It’s fun to jam and play around, but to actually record anything useful from it that doesn’t wind up a human-unreadable mess is just horrible. It just doesn’t display midi data in any useful way; It’s hardly tempting to go in after a midi live recording session and tweak stuff to perfection.

My list of external gear:

M-audio Firewire 410 audio/midi interface
Clavia Nord Micro modular
Korg R3
MidiNES
M-audio Oxygen8
M-audio Triggerfinger
Akai MPD24

Sequencing the synths are done pretty much exclusively through manual keyboard input of notes. I just can’t be arsed with the mess midi recording produces.

at some point when i started feeling more adept writing curves in the pattern editor and automation screen.
i gained a fulfillment from doing so. it feels clean to me.
will be honest though, assigning parameters for a ton of knobs and faders is not how i like spending my energy!

on the contrary i will say breaking out the ol controllers, can be very fun experience, after all the controllers are linked.

i did actually stop using most all vsti’s with controller because of the shoddy standards that make you have to re-link between them. like say you think you are finished working with one and now want to work on another, then you think you want to tweak the previous just a tad… can’t do it from the controller cuz it’s already been linked! to me it begins a meaningless complication. even the newest hard technology is always too outdated.

@choice: but these automapping features would work with renoise as well (as long as we’re dealing with third-party plugins). Try watching this video, it’s actually got me interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9B7oPhy20w

So I think we’re looking at a hardware renaissance of sorts (finally getting smarter with the software)

monome 256.
best purchase ever.

Monome 40h (64 buttons w independent light feedback)

Doepfer Drehbank (64 knobs)

Edirol PCR-1 (very compact keyboard)

ADA MC-1 (10 button foot controller)

I’m not using Renoise much these days. I’m focusing on more performative ways to create music, and Renoise is still mostly a composing environment. Not much room for live improv stuff unless you’re very good with keyboard shortcuts, and frankly, that wouldn’t make for a much more interesting performance than your average laptop artist using a mouse.

With computers getting cheaper and more advanced, and the net available for distribution, we are flooded with electronic music by lots of composers. But interesting live performances are still rare, IMO. I hope Renoise can be a part of filling that gap.

More mapping possibilities, routing and OSC support please!

just found this link

maybe this could be "hacked"into a renoise controller hehe

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx…N82E16823161023

There are software tools that convert game-controller signals to midi messages.
I’ve recently see someone posting a link somewhere but i don’t remember where.

Akai MPD16

Behringer BCF2000

Evolution MK-249C2

Though I barely use the first 2.

it’s small, yet not portable, plastic and fragile, but it gets the job done:

I use game controllers all the time. Here’s Psychofreud using my Guitar hero rig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJVGOhckKd0

i dont use it as a midi controller, though. but it can function as one. i’ll probably wait until the new access viruses come out until i use a midi controller. that’s the plan at least. i like to play w/ this one in bed and keep room on my desk for school shit.