Hehe, yeah. I’m kinda new to this style so I will be thorough. When I played hard rock music back in the day, I usually played the songs live many and tuned them slowly before release, so I’m used to spending a lot of time finishing tracks, sometimes years.
I’m more confident in what I’m doing now though, maybe it will go faster, I hope so. With you guys’ help, I’m sure it will There are six songs that I’m working on now.
Yeah, and it could take even decades if you’re saving ideas and storing unfinished tracks on your drive while creating something else. Just checked out of curiosity, personally I’ve got around 300 ideas and unfinished or unreleased finished tracks on my drive, and that’s only the Renoise stuff. I didn’t even count the stuff that was created in other DAWs.
That’s what I was talking about. You’re composing good stuff regardless of the style. Very moody track, well done. I like the interaction of pads, bass and synths, composition-wise as well as the instrumentation. This is nice and deserves to be released. You just missed to push the kick just a little more (I don’t hear it anymore in case all instruments are playing at the same time, especially through speakers), but please don’t start another mixing experiment for another X years on this one (and in general ). I’d just push kick (and bass) a little, and that’s it. I would also like to see you releasing all your nice Synthwave tracks from the recent years (just checked, one of them is called “14”). And I still “need” some of them in my collection. Make it happen.
Are you fishing for compliments, or do you really expect there’s a possibility that everyone’s suggesting to you not to finish the song? Finish whatever you like to finish, do it the way you like to do it. You’ve got your style, which is not my style, but that’s ok. I respect your style, too. You’re capable of composing stuff, and the balance is good, too. What I’m generally missing is some depth, some whoomp, some more three dimensional sound, simply more impact. But maybe it sounds like it sounds because you want it to sound like it sounds.
That’s normal if one’s listening to that kind of music for at least 4 decades…
hehe… it is. just my strange way of asking indirectly for advices… sorry.
What I am really curious about is to know if the mixing works or not.
And I can understand that in works ok in this song.
So now it is only about fixing bum notes and so.
(I hate mixing… steals too much time from composing)
When I builded up the bass and drum track in this song I used “Too pieces” by Yazoo as reference track.
I’m trying to remake “strange world” by push but can’t seem to get any 2k information right or something, will delete this and try again at least I’m getting used to using vst synths and learned not everything can be done with samples push - strange world.xrns (5.5 MB)
I haven´t heard the original and some vst´s failed to load. But still I liked the sound, nice and round. A little low gain, but you probably know that. There are others here who probably can comment more on technical stuff. Looking forward to hear it when it´s finished
And have fun with vst synths, it’s a different world that I’m still trying to get the hang on myself. I stuck with samples from the 90´s to 2020, but when trying to make electro/synth stuff, you need synths.
Very smooth, @ffx. I like the song, has a good atmosphere and melody. Good mix. If anything, one of the bassline transitions to new ground tone can sound a little false. It´s subjective though, I often use dis-tones/chords myself. The first one I can hear is at 0.57.
I don’t have the VSTs that you’re using, so I can only listen to the rest. Provided I turn up the volume A LOT, because everything is WAY too soft. Usually it’s about 3 times louder than it currently is. This is the max volume of your song in its current state:
I’m neither familiar with your music nor with your skills, so I cannot say if it’s just a very early stage or if you’re not familiar with using compressors, filters and so on. And why is there a maximizer in the clap track? I would suggest to use filters and compressors in every single track instead.
Yeah I’m still working on gainstaging I kinda moved the faders too much also but isn’t it better than clipping? Or I was afraid I needed to add more layers because it wasn’t coming exactly so I was reserving headroom idk
I wouldn’t use maximizer on a clap but it was a last resort because the reference song clap had a longer tail and more compressed sound, compressor didn’t work first, choosing (or layering/designing/resampling) other clap samples with longer tail didn’t work, so i used msed to solo mid or side and figure out if the tails and everything were coming from the reverb or something else (also what kind and how much delay and reverb the synths have) I think if you match the mid/side you match the song, right? And as they say, trying to get the sound mostly right before effects because u can’t polish a
I have akg k240 and they kinda sound muddy at high volume but would it be more ideal to keep system volume low and fader levels higher? I might be sabotaging myself with something to do with fletcher munson curve
Also watching the reference track on the spectrum it had this persistent noisy information around 2khz, instead of clean sterile harmonics like mine, could this be reverb? Because noise and reverb look similar on spectrum, but also some synths have layered noise, a bandpassed noise sample didn’t work.
Thank you so much for listening and your help
I’m surprised nobody has vital and surge xt, maybe because I use AU plugins, does R load the vst version of the plugins when the song file is opened in another system?
As long as you activate auto gain and put a limiter, clipper or maximizer in your master, there is no clipping.
Track faders always 0 dB, the system volume (sound card) doesn’t matter. You can adjust the volumes of samples and VSTs in the sampler and plugin tabs. And if necessary you can also push the volumes by using compressors and of course at the end of the creative journey in any kind of limiter in your master track.
Idk, what’s your reference track? Personally I don’t use reference tracks, and I never mix by watching the spectrum. I always rely on my ears.
Yes, I’m an oldschool “Serum, Sylenth1 and Omnisphere” type of guy. No need to use anything else when it comes to synths. And of course Renoise doesn’t open VST2 or VST3 versions on a Windows system if you used AU in your file on Mac. Renoise opens what have been used, provided it’s available.
I agree with everything except for reference track, the reference track is push - strange world as this is is a remake as I said, I think there’s no better way to learn than trying to replicate exactly what you like, and if you are just using your ears I don’t know how’d you replicate things like how much fundamental the synth has or overtone profile, or the peaks of the hihats etc, I can use my ears for the levels and very wide cuts of boosts for eq, if it’s something very surgical or to sound design, I need the spectrum.
And very useful point by Andrew, I think we need to separate the creative/sound design process from the mixing/engineering later on
Thanks