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#1 lettuce

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:11

Swing variations of 50, 54, 58, 60, 62, 66, 70 and 75%

 

How would I achieve these swing variations using delay by ticks commands in a pattern at default settings ( 4 lines per beat, 12 ticks per line...sequencer resolution 48 parts per quarter note)?

 

[ EDIT ]

 

I found a way to do it here ( in sunvox guide ) :

 

https://sunvox-guide...ding-swing.html


Edited by Barrett Wang, 17 December 2017 - 02:51.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:10

( edit ) : *NOT ROGER LINN STYLE SWING ( DELAYING THE SECOND 8TH NOTE IN EVERY QUARTER NOTE INSTEAD OF DELAYING THE SECOND 16TH NOTE IN EVERY 8TH NOTE LIKE ROGER LINN SWING )

 

SWING VARIATIONS USING DELAY NOTE BY XX TICKS COMMAND ( 0Qxx ) :

TPL-12 LPB-4 ( 48ppqn )

50% ( 24ticks / 24ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.17% ( 26ticks / 22 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q02
03 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.33% ( 28ticks / 20ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q04
03 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.42% ( 29ticks / 19ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q05
03 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.5% ( 30ticks / 18ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q06
03 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.67% ( 32ticks / 16ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q08
03 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.83% ( 34ticks / 14ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q0A
03 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 36ticks / 12ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- ----
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-8 ( 96ppqn )

50% ( 48ticks / 48ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.17% ( 52ticks / 44ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -Q04
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.33% ( 56ticks / 40ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -Q08
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.42% ( 58ticks / 38ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -Q0A
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.5% ( 60ticks / 36ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 C-4 00 -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.67% ( 64ticks / 32ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 C-4 00 -- -Q04
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.83% ( 68ticks / 28ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 C-4 00 -- -Q08
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 72ticks / 24ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-12 ( 144ppqn )

50% ( 72ticks / 72ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.17% ( 78ticks / 66 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -Q06
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.33% ( 84ticks / 60ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 C-4 00 -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.42% ( 87ticks / 57ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 C-4 00 -- -Q03
08 --- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.5% ( 90ticks / 54ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 C-4 00 -- -Q06
08 --- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.67% ( 96ticks / 48ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 C-4 00 -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.83% ( 102ticks / 42ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 C-4 00 -- -Q06
09 --- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 108ticks / 36ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )
 


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:51

Hopefully this method of applying swing variations in trackers will match the swing settings of the MPCs.

( EDIT : they will not. These sets of swing variations were created by delaying the second 8th note in every quarter note. Roger Linn's MPC swing variations were created by delaying the second 16th note in every 8th note ).

 

Roger Linn:

 

There are a few factors that have contributed to natural, human-feeling grooves in my drum machines...

 

Swing – applied to quantized 16th-note beats – is a big part of it. My implementation of swing has always been very simple: I merely delay the second 16th note within each 8th note. In other words, I delay all the even-numbered 16th notes within the beat (2, 4, 6, 8, etc.) In my products I describe the swing amount in terms of the ratio of time duration between the first and second 16th notes within each 8th note...

 

...Regarding sequencer resolution, the LM-1 – used on all of those early hits by Prince, Michael Jackson, and many others – had a sequencer resolution of 48 parts per quarter note. (48 parts per quarter note permits swing variations of 50, 54, 58, 60, 62, 66, 70 and 75%, and I rarely need more swing increments than this.) The Tempest has a resolution of 96 parts per quarter note but almost all of the great grooves it makes don’t use more than 48 parts per quarter note resolution and often no more than 24.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 11:34

I wrote a tool that may be of interest, though it is not to do with ticks but the delay column.

The tools main function is to control the global groove settings but it also gives you a readout of the renoise delay column values that match a Linn drum.  The precision which the Linn drum can be matched depends on the resolution of the renoise master groove sliders (one percent increments over a different range to the Linn drum), so not always perfect but can get you in the right area:

 

i.e.:

 

working at 4LPB:

 

Moving the main slider unitil the lowest readout Drum Machine shows  54%.  This is 54% Linn Drum swing .  It matches to a "16th Note Delay"  of 14 which you would add manually the delay column of every other line in renoise

 

Groove Control 54%.PNG

 

here shows the the 14 values added manually in a renoise track, delay column; every other line.

 

groove 14 in pattern editor.PNG

 

 

for 58% swing, the closest that the renoise groove sliders get for `Drum Machine` is 57.9%.  Here the renoise delay column value you would add is 28

 

Groove Control 57.9%.PNG

 

 

 

If using like this, just make sure the `Groove Enabled` checkbox remains switched off, otherwise you start layering your manually added swing with the renoise global groove settings

 

https://www.renoise..../groove-control


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 20:17

Keep in Mind that esp.with the old school MPC Producers, they often used double speed e.g. 90 = 180 BPM.

 

With this, the Resolution also doubled; same with the SP-1200 (24ppq) doubled to 48ppq's like an MPC.

 

Actually the SP-1200 is mad loose in feel on Drums, almost like a human 'live' feel; due to its off - beat #swing.

 

So experimenting a little with half & double - speeds, can do wonders esp. for creating those loose Drums.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 00:50

renoise sequenzer is (for me) to limited for drums
it lacks at a scalable noteditor as the mpcs have
yes with double speed can be compensated but with that lose renoise also fast his strength the clarity
me rather play/record realtime with an old drumachine + renoise sampler and record midi/audio

 

I notice many musicians spending countless hours learning how to microscopically edit their music in order to get it to sound right. I can’t help but imagine a skilled drummer quietly chuckling inside when they see someone going to so much trouble in order to avoid learning to play the instrument skillfully. At a certain point, it might just be easier to focus on developing the skill to play it in realtime. If so, an added bonus is that you’d be able to play live with other musicians, which is quite a lot of fun and the resulting serendipity can be wonderful. - Roger Linn

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 01:11

renoise sequenzer is (for me) to limited for drums
it lacks at a scalable noteditor as the mpcs have
yes with double speed can be compensated but with that lose renoise also fast his strength the clarity
me rather play/record realtime with an old drumachine + renoise sampler and record midi/audio

 

https://www.attackma...gic-mpc-timing/

 

Thats why you can change the LPB? :)



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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:12

only larger steps with LPB are possible, that, renoise is great for drum programming
but not so for liveplaying (human feel without quantization)


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:45

Using the delay column it is possible to get much more accurate percentage based swing variations:

 

( edit ) : *NOT ROGER LINN STYLE SWING ( DELAYING THE SECOND 8TH NOTE IN EVERY QUARTER NOTE INSTEAD OF DELAYING THE SECOND 16TH NOTE IN EVERY 8TH NOTE LIKE ROGER LINN SWING )

 

SWING VARIATIONS USING DELAY COLUMN ( 256ths OF A LINE ) :

TPL-12 LPB-4 ( 48ppqn, 1024 delay units per quarter note )

50% ( 512delayunits / 512 delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.00390625% ( 553delayunits / 471delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 29 ---- ( delayed by 41 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.0078125% ( 594delayunits / 430delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 52 ---- ( delayed by 82 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.05859375% ( 615delayunits / 409delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 67 ---- ( delayed by 103 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.01171875% ( 635delayunits / 389delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 7B ---- ( delayed by 123 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.015625% ( 676delayunits / 348delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- A4 ---- ( delayed by 164 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.01953125% ( 717delayunits / 307delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- CD ---- ( delayed by 205 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 768delayunits / 256delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -- ----
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-8 ( 96ppqn, 2048 delay units per quarter note )

50% ( 1024delayunits / 1024delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.00390625% ( 1106delayunits / 942delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- 52 ---- ( delayed by 82 delay units from start of line )
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.0078125% ( 1188delayunits / 860delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- A4 ---- ( delayed by 164 delay units from start of line )
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.009765625% ( 1229delayunits / 819delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- CD ---- ( delayed by 205 delay units from start of line )
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.01171875% ( 1270delayunits / 778delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- F6 ---- ( delayed by 246 delay units from start of line )
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.015625% ( 1352delayunits / 696delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 C-4 00 -- 48 ---- ( delayed by 72 delay units from start of line )
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.01953125% ( 1434delayunits / 614delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 C-4 00 -- 9A ---- ( delayed by 154 delay units from start of line )
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 1536delayunits / 512delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-12 ( 144ppqn, 3072 delay units per quarter note )

50% ( 1536delayunits / 1536delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.00390625% ( 1659delayunits / 1413delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- 7B ---- ( delayed by 123 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.0078125% ( 1782delayunits / 1290delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- F6 ---- ( delayed by 246 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.026041666666664% ( 1844delayunits / 1228delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 C-4 00 -- 34 ---- ( delayed by 52 delay units from start of line )
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.01171875% ( 1905delayunits / 1167delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 C-4 00 -- 71 ---- ( delayed by 113 delay units from start of line )
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.015625% ( 2028delayunits / 1044delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 C-4 00 -- 14 ---- ( delayed by 20 delay units from start of line )
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.01953125% ( 2151delayunits / 921delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 C-4 00 -- 67 ---- ( delayed by 103 delay units from start of line )
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 2304delayunits / 768delayunits )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

 


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 03:01

@Ledger:

 

 

It seems I have just created swings based on delaying the second 8th note in every quarter note,

rather than by delaying the second 16th note in every 8th note as Roger Linn described. ( 8th note = half a renoise beat, 16th note = quarter of a renoise beat ).

 

Thanks for posting the information about your tool. That helped me realise my mistake.

Damn. These swings still sound cool though.

 

I will do another set of these based on delaying the second 16th note in every 8th note like Roger Linn said.

I bet the percentage values will come out nicer.

 

O.K, I will post the real Roger Linn Style swing variations tomorrow...


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:21

Interesting to see what you`re coming up with here, so thanks for posting up all the results!

 

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 22:41

O.K, here they are. The first set are the Roger Linn style swing variations ( MPC, Linndrum, Tempest etc. ), the second set are closer to the actual percentages using the delay column...I've put all the exact percentages in :

 

ROGER LINN MPC-STYLE SWING VARIATIONS : DELAYING THE SECOND 16TH NOTE IN EVERY 8TH NOTE

SWING VARIATIONS USING DELAY NOTE BY XX TICKS COMMAND ( 0Qxx ) :

TPL-12 LPB-4 ( 48ppqn, 24 ticks per 8th note )

50% ( 1st 16th note - 12 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 12 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- ----
( repeat )

54.166666666666664% ( 1st 16th note - 13 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 11 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -Q01
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q01
( repeat )

58.333333333333336% ( 1st 16th note - 14 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 10 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -Q02
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q02
( repeat )

60%?? ( 1st 16th note - 14 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 10 ticks )
60% is not possible at this resolution ( this is the same as the last 58.333333333333336%, 14 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -Q02
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q02
( repeat )

62.5% ( 1st 16th note - 15 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 9 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -Q03
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q03
( repeat )

66.66666666666666% ( 1st 16th note - 16 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 8 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -Q04
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q04
( repeat )

70.83333333333334% ( 1st 16th note - 17 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 7 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -Q05
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q05
( repeat )

75% ( 1st 16th note - 18 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 6 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -Q06
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q06
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-8 ( 96ppqn, 48 ticks per 8th note )

50% ( 1st 16th note - 24 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 24 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.166666666666664% ( 1st 16th note - 26 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 22 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q02
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -Q02
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.333333333333336% ( 1st 16th note - 28 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 20 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q04
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -Q04
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.416666666666664% ( 1st 16th note - 29 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 19 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q05
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -Q05
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.5% ( 1st 16th note - 30 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 18 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q06
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -Q06
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.66666666666666% ( 1st 16th note - 32 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 16 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q08
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -Q08
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.83333333333334% ( 1st 16th note - 34 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 14 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -Q0A
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -Q0A
07 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 1st 16th note - 36 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 12 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- ----
07 C-4 00 -- ----
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-12 ( 144ppqn, 72 ticks per 8th note )

50% ( 1st 16th note - 36 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 36 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- ----
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- ----
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.166666666666664% ( 1st 16th note - 39 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 33 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q03
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- -Q03
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.333333333333336% ( 1st 16th note - 42 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 30 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q06
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- -Q06
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

61.111111111111114% ( 1st 16th note - 44 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 28 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q08
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- -Q08
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.5% ( 1st 16th note - 45 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 27 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q09
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- -Q09
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.66666666666666% ( 1st 16th note - 48 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 24 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -Q0C
04 --- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- -Q0C
10 --- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.83333333333334% ( 1st 16th note - 51 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 21 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -Q03
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 C-4 00 -- -Q03
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 1st 16th note - 54 ticks / 2nd 16th note - 18 ticks )

00 C-4 00 -- ----
01 --- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -Q06
05 --- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- ----
07 --- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- ----
10 C-4 00 -- -Q06
11 --- -- -- ----
( repeat )

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SWING VARIATIONS : DELAYING THE SECOND 16TH NOTE IN EVERY 8TH NOTE

SWING VARIATIONS USING DELAY COLUMN ( 256ths OF A LINE ) :

TPL-12 LPB-4 ( 48ppqn, 1024 delay units per quarter note, 512 delay units per 8th note )

50% ( 1st 16th note - 256 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 256 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.1015625% ( 1st 16th note - 277 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 235 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- 15 ----( delayed by 21 delay units from start of line )
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 15 ----( delayed by 21 delay units from start of line )
( repeat )

58.0078125% ( 1st 16th note - 297 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 215 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- 29 ----( delayed by 41 delay units from start of line )
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 29 ----( delayed by 41 delay units from start of line )
( repeat )

60.15625% ( 1st 16th note - 308 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 204 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- 34 ----( delayed by 52 delay units from start of line )
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 34 ----( delayed by 52 delay units from start of line )
( repeat )

62.109375% ( 1st 16th note - 318 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 194 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- 3E ----( delayed by 62 delay units from start of line )
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 3E ----( delayed by 62 delay units from start of line )
( repeat )

66.015625% ( 1st 16th note - 338 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 174 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- 52 ----( delayed by 82 delay units from start of line )
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 52 ----( delayed by 82 delay units from start of line )
( repeat )

70.1171875% ( 1st 16th note - 359 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 153 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- 67 ----( delayed by 103 delay units from start of line )
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 67 ----( delayed by 103 delay units from start of line )
( repeat )

75% ( 1st 16th note - 384 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 128 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 C-4 00 -- 80 ----( delayed by 128 delay units from start of line )
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 80 ----( delayed by 128 delay units from start of line )
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-8 ( 96ppqn, 2048 delay units per quarter note, 1024 delay units per 8th note )

50% ( 1st 16th note - 512 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 512 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.00390625% ( 1st 16th note - 553 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 471 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 29 ----( delayed by 41 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- 29 ----( delayed by 41 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.0078125% ( 1st 16th note - 594 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 430 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 52 ----( delayed by 82 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- 52 ----( delayed by 82 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.0585937% ( 1st 16th note - 615 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 409 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 67 ----( delayed by 103 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- 67 ----( delayed by 103 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.01171875% ( 1st 16th note - 635 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 389 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- 7B ----( delayed by 123 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- 7B ----( delayed by 123 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.015625% ( 1st 16th note - 676 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 348 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- A4 ----( delayed by 164 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- A4 ----( delayed by 164 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.01953125% ( 1st 16th note - 717 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 307 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 C-4 00 -- CD ----( delayed by 205 delay units from start of line )
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- CD ----( delayed by 205 delay units from start of line )
07 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 1st 16th note - 768 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 256 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 --- -- -- -- ----
07 C-4 00 -- -- ----
( repeat )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TPL-12 LPB-12 ( 144ppqn, 3072 delay units per quarter note, 1536 delay units per 8th note )

50% ( 1st 16th note - 768 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 768 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- -- ----
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- -- ----
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

54.036458333333336% ( 1st 16th note - 830 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 706 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 3E ----( delayed by 62 delay units from start of line )
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- 3E ----( delayed by 62 delay units from start of line )
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

58.0078125% ( 1st 16th note - 891 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 645 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 7B ----( delayed by 123 delay units from start of line )
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- 7B ----( delayed by 123 delay units from start of line )
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

60.026041666666664% ( 1st 16th note - 922 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 614 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- 9A ----( delayed by 154 delay units from start of line )
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- 9A ----( delayed by 154 delay units from start of line )
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

62.044270833333336% ( 1st 16th note - 953 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 583 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- B9 ----( delayed by 185 delay units from start of line )
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- B9 ----( delayed by 185 delay units from start of line )
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

66.015625% ( 1st 16th note - 1014 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 522 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 C-4 00 -- F6 ----( delayed by 246 delay units from start of line )
04 --- -- -- -- ----
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 C-4 00 -- F6 ----( delayed by 246 delay units from start of line )
10 --- -- -- -- ----
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

70.05208333333334% ( 1st 16th note - 1076 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 460 delay units )

00 C-4 00 -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 00 -- 34 ----( delayed by 52 delay units from start of line )
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 00 -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 C-4 00 -- 34 ----( delayed by 52 delay units from start of line )
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

75% ( 1st 16th note - 1152 delay units / 2nd 16th note - 384 delay units )

00 C-4 -- -- -- ----
01 --- -- -- -- ----
02 --- -- -- -- ----
03 --- -- -- -- ----
04 C-4 -- -- 80 ----( delayed by 128 delay units from start of line )
05 --- -- -- -- ----
06 C-4 -- -- -- ----
07 --- -- -- -- ----
08 --- -- -- -- ----
09 --- -- -- -- ----
10 C-4 -- -- 80 ----( delayed by 128 delay units from start of line )
11 --- -- -- -- ----
( repeat )

 


Edited by lettuce, 19 January 2018 - 22:43.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 22:58

that is very interesting and helpful
thanx lettuce !!



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 00:06

Thanks. I will add a few more of these sets with the swung triplets ( for each of the percentage swings ) included alongside soon.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 00:36

@redman - If your interested, the follow up about how to swing triplets was in another thread here :

 

http://forum.renoise...swung triplets


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