Any news for future versions ?


(herodotas) #101

Buzz is dead and buried long time ago, better try sunvox.


(LofiMat) #102

just wanted to try out something new, different. one question, if buzz is dead already then whats renoise?

— Build 1503 - Saturday, 16 January 2016 16:13:18 UTC - GetMachineModuleHandle fix

http://jeskola.net/buzz/beta/files/changelog.txt

—Renoise 3.1 goes gold Submitted by taktik on January 12, 2016 - 19:10

http://www.renoise.com/blog/renoise-31-goes-gold

old news I know.


(herodotas) #103

Renoise is dead to, but moneysucking ghost still flying.


(Legendary Taunt) #104

There is no need to reinvent the wheel… again. Of course, if you want to do that for the learning experience, go ahead - learning is always a good thing! But if you want to attempt this to create a new tracker, you should not approach it with a side project mentality. Either do it right - and this means years and years of work put into this project and building a community - or it will be lackluster and wasted time for both you and potential users. The niche for trackers is small anyway, and as long as your project is not as feature-complete as the many existing trackers out there, it would not be attractive to any users. If you simply want a tracker experience for yourself and Renoise’s silence makes you look for something else, currently the best alternative is OpenMPT. Renoise has a few advantages, a much more attractive UI, cross-platform availability, the more powerful instrument editor and preset management, as well as macros and great built-in FX. Oh and the plugin grabber, my favourite feature of Renoise. But OpenMPT is a very modern tracker, fully featured, including plugin support. And it is (unfortunately) being developed more active than Renoise at the moment. https://openmpt.org/

Or go the hardware route, I just realized why I love the Elektron Digitakt - it is basically pretty much a tracker in hardware form.

If I do take this on, there will be no half-assing it and I know it would take a lot of time. Especially coming up with a nice sounding audio engine. I agree, don’t reinvent the wheel but I’ve always had my thoughts on how Renoise itself could improve band at the same time, frustrated that community ideas have just been shelved indefinitely.

Going to work out whattechnologies I want touse to make this happen. Guess it’s time for me to disappear again. If there is any new on that front I’ll report back.


(ghostwerk) #105

renoise could take a few pointers from sunvox’s current feature set no doubt


(joule) #106

Yes. Morphing Renoise into a hybrid of “Bars and pipes” and “sunvox” would be the ultimate solution. So many great suggestions in this thread.


(Ben Dover) #107

@joule

Hey, it would actually be the ultimate solution ifRenoise went 100% modular with a GUI adapted for 8Kvector graphics.Some modules couldthen be open source (the pattern editor, mixer, etc) whileothers remained closed source (core audio engine, DSPs). And userswould ideallyalsobe able to extend the system withtheir own modulesin C++ (DSP effects, piano rolls, audio file arrangers, etc).


(pirate utopia) #108

a fully modular DAW is the next thing. Bitwig promised that years ago but no yet there, and Ableton with Max is near… in capabilities Live! is the number 1 for me, but Love Renoise tracker interface and simplicity. A modular Renoise with a different business model could be great, look at VCV Rack and all that development…


(gentleclockdivider) #109

I am pretty sure taktik is working his nutts off to get us a nice christmas present


(ghostwerk) #110

having more freedom to hide and resize parts of the renoise interface has always been a major wish for me, i’ve been dreaming of a further push toward a more modular system overall for years. all we can do is hope our money and support is enough to push development in that direction at this point.

there’s no real competition for renoise in the commercial tracker-based software space, and that leaves those looking for progress feeling assed-out.


(petervh) #111

Personally i’m more interested to see Redux updates than Renoise.


(boonier) #112

look at VCV Rack and all that development…

VCV Rack and its Bridge are pretty cool in Renoise


(The Empty Self) #113

between all of this nonsense Raul manage to make a piano roll tool

so at this point in time

its safe to say that renoise its only on support by some community members

nice job on the tool if you ever read this Raul


#114

I’ve given up hope on High DPI support. The other DAW I use seems to feel more and more like Homer Simpsons Car Design

ahem FL Studio ahem

got myself Bitwig a while ago. Pretty happy about that choice


(sokoban) #115

Here are some useless statistics… about days between Renoise versions :badteeth:

The average time (in blue) is more or less 200 days.

The current tendancy value (in green) is more like 350 days.

If we consider that v3.1.1 has been deployed on 2017-10-04… eeeeh… we can conclude that… eeeeh… v3.2 will be launched a few days ago :smashed:


(Raul (ulneiz)) #116

between all of this nonsense Raul manage to make a piano roll tool

so at this point in time

its safe to say that renoise its only on support by some community members

nice job on the tool if you ever read this Raul

Thanks for your comments Type-A! :)Of course I read this forum, continually. But I do a containment exercise too, otherwise I could explode!For some reason I am still waiting for someone responsible to answer the user who started the forum. I do not even want to think what this person will be thinking when reading all the comments.


(Raul (ulneiz)) #117

@Sokoban.Sorry for the question, but are the data you used reliable? I mean, can I trust those days that you used on the bars?If so, I think it’s a good job and an interesting graphic. The graph speaks for itself.

Leaving the joke aside, I do not remember it, but did so many days go by from version 3.1.0 to version 3.1.1? Version 3.1.1 only adds a few fixes.

Version 3.1.0 is dated October 9, 2015. Version 3.1.1 is dated February 6, 2017 (although it was reported days later and in the forums, without an official publication on the web).The difference would be something like 500 days or more?


(ffx) #118

@sokoban, what happens, if you take out all mini jumps in version, like bugfixes? Taking away all 0.0.x steps, adding the days, would it look different?


(sokoban) #119

@sokoban, what happens, if you take out all mini jumps in version, like bugfixes? Taking away all 0.0.x steps, adding the days, would it look different?

Are you sure you want to know?

Really?

OK :rolleyes:

Ladies and gentlemen, here come the useless statistics about time between minor versions of Renoise without the bugfixes!

This time, the average time is a bit more than one year.

And the current value tends to more than 450 days!!! :panic:

So, considering that v3.1 as been launched on 2015-10-09, it gives v3.2 for… :drummer: … 2017-01-xx…

It breaks the spacetime continuum!!!

The statistics are formal:

v3.2 will fall before v3.1.1 :badteethslayer:


(joule) #120

In one week we will celebrate 1000 days since Renoise 3.1 went gold!