If you need to record shorter notes with more tightly positioned note off commands, then you need to increase the resolution of your patterns. To do this you should increase your LPB (Lines Per Beat) by some factor of 2: ie, from 4 to 8, or from 8 to 16, etc. You should also use the Advanced Edit tools to expand your pattern data to fit the new LPB setting. With more resolution to work with you can easily insert note off commands that cut off the note more rapidly and create a more ‘stabby’ sound.
If you simply need to cut the note without using a volume envelope, then another option is to use the note cut command Fx in the volume or panning columns, although this will not actually be recorded during live performances. http://tutorials.renoise.com/wiki/Pattern_Effect_Commands#Volume_Column
i’ve had great success recording into renoise w/ various controllers. making sure chord mode is on and setting the LPB to 32 (i usually make the blocks a length of 100 or 200 in hex mode) is what allowed me to get solid real time recording w/ midi guitar and electronic drums. only have issues if i quantize the information after recording, so i dont bother w/ that much. maybe a bit off topic of any solution you are after.
There are usually four 16th notes in a beat. Therefore a 16th note in Renoise is always going to be your LPB value divided by 4.
1/16th = 1 line @ 4 LPB
1/16th = 2 lines @ 8 LPB
1/16th = 4 lines @ 16 LPB
and so on…
Short answer:
Yes. Advanced Edit > Whole Song > Expand
Long answer:
Yes, but it depends on the length of your original patterns. The main thing to keep in mind is that patterns can be a maximum of 512 lines long. Every time you use the expand function you are doubling the length of your pattern. Assuming you’ve used the default pattern length of 64 lines, then you can expand a total of three times before you’ll hit the limit: 64 lines to 128 lines (4 LPB to 8 LPB), then from 128 lines to 256 lines (8 LPB to 16 LPB), and then finally from 256 lines to 512 lines (16 LPB to 32 LPB).
With a bit of careful consideration it shouldn’t be a big deal.
I recorded all my patterns at 128 legnth, to go to 16 lines per beat, how long would i need to make the pattern legnth, and how many expands should i do?
But… yeah, Jonas has a very good point. There’s already an existing tool designed for this job that I had simply forgotten about. Might be a good idea to give that a try first.
Download the .XRNX to your desktop or something, and then drag the .XRNX file into Renoise to install it. The tool will then be available to use from the Tools main menu.
Seems like these concepts are new to him (as they are to many other users at first), so let’s give him a break please? Just trying to be helpful here.
You can simply double or quadribble the LPB and then increase the pattern size x2 or x4 (if you don’t want to have short patterns that scroll quickly out of vision) to be able to record staccato notes.
What’s the deal here?
What you want is simply possible, just not on a low LPB ratio.
Well, I’ve also had massive problems recording MIDI and CCs (note-offs, missing notes/note-offs depending on LPB/BPM, mapping CCs to record them). I would prefer to get some temporal resolution, like it was discussed some years ago (zoom in pattern editor etc).
Renoise shines at programming but I would want to combine that with playing (mostly because I’m human and have the usual genetic trappings for that, hands and all).
Current best way is to use Rewire I presume. Maybe just don’t use plugins on Renoise’s end, instead Rewire the audio to the host and do processing there?
Renoise is a tracker…NOT A DAW!!! How hard is that to understand? They weren’t created to record audio/midi. It will never work like Cubase, and most people would prefer to keep it that way.
Did you try it, or are you just making that assumption? I find that Renoise adds very little to my CPU usage when I’m using it as a slave. (RAM, OTOH…)
look, the whole point here is: why the hell would you do a post like this? tell people you are leaving Renoise? what good is this knowledge to anyone?
there are already threads about the problem you are talking about (the note-off thing), they discuss the problem in detail and provide possible solutions. this is just self-pity manifested in a forum-post.
this, for one, is complete and utter bullshit. there are loads of people who do ‘serious music recording’ with Renoise every day. sure, they run into problems, but no DAW (or whatever you want to call it) is perfect. work around it. be creative. that’s what it’s all about.
Seriously, i understand why, but after comparing the midi to cubase, wow. I like to play fast notes like fast stabs in my bass notes sometimes, and this is a no go for renoise, its fine if you program. But seriously, i spent hours trying to play in stuff live and having to tediously edit the hell out of it made me pull my damn hair out.
Never said you cant do it if you edit, I just don’t feel like having to edit and program what I play live into my sequence. I hope that makes sense to you.
I have battery 2, so i don’t really need renoise for drums.
