Buzz Sequence Editor Vs Renoise

[XG2003]

@esaruoho

Yes, I too do not like every aspect of the Pattern Matrix. I believe that the Aliases in the Pattern Matrix will be changed eventually, and will improve over time. I too have been using computers for thirty years, and the one thing i have learned about developers of any software is that they do not respond kindly to being berated, cursed at and hated. give them something to think about, in easily understandable sentences, raise their interest in what you are trying to accomplish, and they will either grok it or not. you are doing nothing of the sort. So, the Pattern Matrix in 2012 is not a good design. This does not mean that the Pattern Matrix in Renoise 2.9 or Renoise 3.0 will be 100% identical to how it is in Renoise 2.8.1. I will wait and see what changes with the handling of the Pattern Matrix and the Aliases in Pattern Matrix, and of course, people are free to code a tool that modifies the current Pattern Matrix behaviour in such ways that it is closer to how the Sequence Editor in Buzz works. Lua is not that hard. also, considering that Lua can be used to create GUIs, it would be more useful to start researching how to code a Sequence Editor-like Renoise Tool using LUA scripting language, and to achieve your goals this way. this would, however, require a constructive effort at learning LUA scripting, and would require for you to really care enough about the Sequence Editor to want to re-create it using LUA scripting. I doubt that it is impossible.

I’ve already gone into great detail in another thread

Brainstorming: Arranger

Here are some of my ideas. Terminology in bold. Basics First of all, the main parts of the arranger will be a time ruler and multiple trackstrips. It’s enough to describe what a trackstrip should contain. A trackstrip will have two parts, the trackheader and the trackcontents. This is much like in the patterneditor, and as in other sequencers with similar arrangers. The trackheader will show trackname and other relevant information. Trackcontents will show clips with trackdata. Up to thi…

about the reasons why I thought (before the pattern matrix was made) the Buzz sequence editor was the best model. Many other people said the same thing before and after I did.

I don’t have the time to learn LUA scripting. I am just a customer who bought Renoise, but unfortunately can’t get the most out of it because of the pattern matrix - everything else is fantastic and I really want to use it, but the pattern matrix stops my workflow and I can’t write music with it.

I don’t remember berating, cursing or ‘hating’ the devs. I said that the pattern matrix is badly designed - it is. If you’re a Buzz user and then you come to the pattern matrix, you look at it and think ‘why do I have to do ALL that just to do what took one keypress in Buzz’? I don’t even know how it came into being - what options were given to customers to vote on it, versus alternative arrangers? Were there any alternatives, or was it ‘pattern matrix or nothing’? I don’t know, my copy of Renoise didn’t qualify me for a free upgrade at the time, and I wasn’t going to buy Renoise again until it was as easy to arrange songs in it as it is in Buzz - but then I thought there were so many other improvements, it was time to buy it again (i.e. I bought it originally so long ago that my (incredibly long) licence had expired, as far as free updates go.)