Buzz Sequence Editor Vs Renoise

[XG2003]

@esaruoho

he is stating that, from what he understood of what you wrote, the pattern matrix (=arranger) cannot do it.

anyway, the more i think about this, it would be possible to

1. take a 0pattern with, say, 8 tracks worth of notes in it
2. make an identical copy to, say, pattern255
3. read pattern editor effect columns per each track and when a specific pattern effect is read (BZ01 for instance, or something, on track 1)
4. copy the contents of Track1 in Pattern 255 to Track 1 in Pattern 00 right after BZ01 effect command.

this would enable you to restart a track in a pattern by using “clip space” (pattern 255 content).

this does not solve what you want to do with renoise, if you want to have a 32 row pattern with 2048 rows of melodies or pads, but in theory it could, if you were to make LPB1 BPM 32 pads, copy them to pattern255 and then spread them across multiple patterns (the script would have to read the pattern order-list on the left). this would be extremely destructive, but it is not impossible.

Well, in this thread:

Brainstorming: Arranger

Here are some of my ideas. Terminology in bold. Basics First of all, the main parts of the arranger will be a time ruler and multiple trackstrips. It’s enough to describe what a trackstrip should contain. A trackstrip will have two parts, the trackheader and the trackcontents. This is much like in the patterneditor, and as in other sequencers with similar arrangers. The trackheader will show trackname and other relevant information. Trackcontents will show clips with trackdata. Up to thi…

I suggested that it should be possible to produce a Buzz Sequence Editor style arranger, like this:

Renoise currently contains patterns. Each pattern consists of one or more tracks. You can mute individual tracks. You can copy and paste entire tracks to another pattern.
Right. Since you can do all of these things yourself, as the human operator of the program, the program itself can be made to do all of those things instantly, without you even knowing it’s doing them. i.e. instead of you highlighting an entire track manually, by positioning the cursor at the top and dragging down to the bottom (or however you do it in Renoise nowadays), and then using CTRL-C, and then moving to pattern 10, and using CTRL-V, the program itself could presumably do all of that with one keypress, right?

In the same way, if I can solo track 1 in pattern 1 and play it, and then solo track 2 in pattern 2 and play it, even using the current pattern system, it should be possible to play
Pattern 1 Track 1 Pattern 2 Track 2
simultaneously, right? All Renoise would have to do is look at the matrix, and the matrix would say "Copy Pattern 1 Track 1 into Track 1 of the ‘temp’ pattern, and copy Pattern 2 Track 2 into Track 2 of the ‘temp’ pattern, and then play the TEMP pattern, not the normal patterns.

So the matrix would look like

Drums1 Bass1
Drums2 Bass1

and it would copy and paste, in the background, invisibly, into the ‘temp’ pattern, the following:

Pattern 1 Track 1 Pattern 2 Track 2
Pattern 2 Track 1 Pattern 2 Track 2

etc.etc.

in other words, it should be possible to implement a Buzz like Sequence Editor (i.e. the best way of doing it) without changing anything much in the pattern editor. No need to implement anything new in the actual way the patterns are stored, you can just ‘hide’ what is actually happening in the patterns and show the user the ‘Buzz’ version of events.