Hey Kara, not a Buzz user myself, but some here have used it
Why would you want to drop Buzz completely? Don’t think a new sequencer will kill procrastination or magically create hits for you. Time and dedication is what’s needed here. The fact that you’re thinking of dropping Buzz, makes me wonder if when Renoise doesn’t grant you ‘immediate’ results, you’re posting a similar thread in a fruityloops forum
Of course there’s nothing wrong with using multiple sequencers, experimenting, trying out new toys. Why don’t you install the demo which only limitation is render to disk and asio support, it will still let you save …judge for yourself, trust noone!!
Well, to answer a couple of your questions
-I won’t drop Buzz completly, there are a couple of buzz machines that i couldn’t miss
But it looks to me that renoise has a couple of major advantages over buzz
The biggest seems to me that patterns are independant of instruments, which is Buzz isn’t the case; Create in buzz a couple of pattern and the decide that you want to use another machine and you are in big shit…
Another one that sample handling and mapping is realy more advanced then in Buzz
It is allso a fact that the development of Buzz is dead, and despite the fact that there are a couple of clone development out there, none of them I found are in a usuable production stage. Contrary to renoise which seems to be a ongoing development.
I am playing with the demo at the moment and must say that alltough it has a hugh feature set, I pretty fast found my way in it, after browsing trough the manual.
At the moment, the biggest feature I’m missing is the fantastic routing possibilities of Buzz.
Perhaps there are other things missing which old buzzers realy are missing, this was the reason of my question.
Yep I found this too, a shame it is very buggy, barely useable
Thanks for the link
Yeah ! Sendchannels is the thing !
I didn’t realize that it was the equivalent to routing.
I agree that it has a better pattern editor, but the lack of a multi-pattern will be a heck of a change for me.
I’m still not sure how to construct a song without a multi-pattern arrangement. I suppose that the only way is a lot of copy & paste ?
God… Rember the nagging about adding buzzplugs to Renoise? Wasn’t the code ready already, but dropped due to the high price tag? Think we can be glad it never was included, just imagine the crowded subforum with machine bugreports and the amount of time Taktik would have to spend on fixing those bugs (to be able to be proud of his stable composing environment) in stead of adding the awesome features he’s added now!
Oh, and about exporting to MIDI… There was a short tutorial here on the boards somewhere, Kizzume or IT-alien made it work with Energy XT.
Haha, Buzz. I used that 10 years ago. The crashing, the horrible sound quality (I always had pops), the harsh filters which were actually great for some things (ear splitting leads). Renoise is much better, missing only an arranger. But then again, I had a compilation CD release with the only tune I did in Buzz. Maybe I should switch back.
actually, BUZZ machines support was about to be added in a special version of Renoise, but then Oskari went mad about Lunar07, a BUZZ user and machine developer he probably hates, was a Renoise user, and decided not to allow Renoise to include BUZZ support.
that one is still one of the lamest things I’ve ever seen on this forum…