Just wondering if having both is useful or overkill?
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Itās incredibly useful to be able to load up Renoise instruments inside other DAWs.
And if you didnāt know already, Redux accesses the exact same section of your HD that stores all of your Renoise content. Meaning, all your instruments, chains, sets, etc from Renoise ā they are all already there inside Redux from the moment you first open it.
So, short answer: YES.
Cheers,
-M
Assuming you have not discovered Rewire protocol or use extensive sampling, owning Redux is next to irrelevant in my opinion if you have Renoise running too. Itās way more limited than Renoise and much of its Pattern editor benefits of tracking are lost. Itās however ok for folks who primarily are exploring tracker workflow in an otherwise DAW oriented session without a full investment in a tracking software. It seems Darude uses the FT 2 clone for OSX rather than any other tracker software in conjunction with his DAW setupā¦neither does Aphex Twin use Redux as an educated guess from my endā¦itās a weird market segment for this. I tried the demo and did not like it, seemed like a Phrase editor taken out of place without also having the Pattern editor included.
I do but never use it.
I need to change up my workflow to see what results, and play around with Redux in Reaper.
Own it, donāt use it. Want to use it, but turns out it doesnāt quite work playing more than one phrase polyphonic from my DAW.
Just wondering if having both is useful or overkill?
I see that you already own a Renoise license.
Do you actually use any other hosts (DAWs, sequencers, whatever terminology you prefer) apart from Renoise, or is Renoise your primary music composition and production tool?
If you already own Renoise and donāt really use any other software for music, then thereās really not much point in owning Redux, since Redux is basically just a slightly stripped down version of Renoiseās instrument/sampler āengineā in VST/AU plugin form.
In other words, everything that Redux does, Renoise can already do that (and more) ā with the added benefit of actually having the main tracker sequencer on top of it all.
Either way, simply give the Redux demo a try and see if it makes any sense to you 
i do not have redux yet but will buy it.
redux is simply one or the best vst sampler (I do not know all but try foolishly too many) which is rather uninteresting for tracker fans.
@ m.arthur
By the way thanks for your post there
https://forum.renoise.com/t/im-an-idiot-redux-is-perfect/48337
i dont know this before
If you already own Renoise and donāt really use any other software for music, then thereās really not much point in owning Redux
Hey, rendering .xrni to.xrni is not pointless, or? 
Hey, rendering .xrni to.xrni is not pointless, or?
If the Renoise plugin grabber could capture any type of instrument, not just plugins, that would indeed be rather bloody nifty!
Yo dawg, we heard you like sampling samplers, so we put a sampler in your sampler, so you can sample while youā¦ and so on, and so forthā¦
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Hey, rendering .xrni to.xrni is not pointless, or?
Itās very useful if you have an xrni that uses a lot of resources, because you can then load it in Redux and plugin grab it, turning it into a sample only instrument. This makes it very easy to experiment with sounds without having to worry about the rising CPU and it means that you can basically stack as many FX instances as you like.
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I bought it because it was cool (and also to just support Renoise, encourage development etcā¦). In reality I rarely use it, every time I fire it up in a DAW and try and use it, I get annoyed and just fire up Renoise. Using it within Renoise is interesting, as has been pointed out with the plugin grabber and also phrases of phrases can interesting, particularly for percussion.
If I spent the time to build my personal XRNI library I would probably use it more.
I do but never use it.
I need to change up my workflow to see what results, and play around with Redux in Reaper.
āi use it in Reaperāā most of the drum instruments i uploaded for the forums downloads i made them for that specific purpose ā¦Redux ability to ā¦route diff samples to diff modulation sets and then to diff fx chains allow to me to process and entire kit using just one instance and 1 channel in reaper !!!
so yeah super nice ā¦also as someone mention before the ability to have my renoise instruments loaded in reaper
like this instrument !!
http://forum.renoise.com/index.php/files/file/669-linndrum-lm1-processed/
i hate REWIRE
I acquired a license from Redux knowing that I was not going to use it. I did it to support Renoiseās development, which is what really interests me.The best way to support Renoiseās development is to pay, money.
I did it to support Renoiseās development, which is what really interests me.The best way to support Renoiseās development is to pay, money.
Same here. And how do you feel, now that Renoise has been mismanaged and neglected for 2+ years? 
Same here. And how do you feel, now that Renoise has been mismanaged and neglected for 2+ years?
Cāmon, no need to reopen that conversation here. Plenty of other threads for it.
Cheers.
Wrong. Since heās using an absurd ground to state itās a good idea to take an action, itās totally justified that someone points it out.
No hard feelings, but that particular argument is obviously invalid and shouldnāt be made to new/potential users.
Owning Redux is next to irrelevant in my opinion if you have Renoise running too.
Except that Redux can be loaded in another DAW as a plugin, and Renoise cannot. So if your situation is that you want to use another DAW for your work, but retain all of your Renoise sampler instruments, then Redux is hardly redundant at all, itās incredibly useful.
It just depends on oneās individual DAW approach. If youāre a hardcore Renoise user, of course Redux is redundant. But if you use other DAWs at all, it provides a very specific functionality ā Renoiseās sampler, available ELSEWHERE.
-M
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Just look how nice Redux* looks inside Bitwig Studio 2, practically looks like a new native bitwig sampler 
*Iām using the default Renoise skin inside Redux, which isnāt available by default, you have to import it manually from Renoise
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Except that Redux can be loaded in another DAW as a plugin, and Renoise cannot. So if your situation is that you want to use another DAW for your work, but retain all of your Renoise sampler instruments, then Redux is hardly redundant at all, itās incredibly useful.
It just depends on oneās individual DAW approach. If youāre a hardcore Renoise user, of course Redux is redundant. But if you use other DAWs at all, it provides a very specific functionality ā Renoiseās sampler, available ELSEWHERE.
-M
I donāt use anything else apart from MPC hardwares and mobile apps like Caustic and Audio Evolution and other stuff like guitar processorsā¦ Renoise for tracking specific stuff and more elaborate arrangments as and when required. Akai MPC 2.0 also runs as a plugin but is not it comparably more convenient to have Renoise running as a plugin like MPC software than a partial subset of its features as Redux?
No hard feelings, but that particular argument is obviously invalid and shouldnāt be made to new/potential users.
None at all. Opinions are just that, opinions.
Cheers.