Do many of you also own Redux or no?


(ARNK) #1

Just wondering if having both is useful or overkill?


(m.arthur) #2

It’s incredibly useful to be able to load up Renoise instruments inside other DAWs.

And if you didn’t know already, Redux accesses the exact same section of your HD that stores all of your Renoise content. Meaning, all your instruments, chains, sets, etc from Renoise – they are all already there inside Redux from the moment you first open it.

So, short answer: YES.

Cheers,

-M


(encryptedmind) #3

Assuming you have not discovered Rewire protocol or use extensive sampling, owning Redux is next to irrelevant in my opinion if you have Renoise running too. It’s way more limited than Renoise and much of its Pattern editor benefits of tracking are lost. It’s however ok for folks who primarily are exploring tracker workflow in an otherwise DAW oriented session without a full investment in a tracking software. It seems Darude uses the FT 2 clone for OSX rather than any other tracker software in conjunction with his DAW setup…neither does Aphex Twin use Redux as an educated guess from my end…it’s a weird market segment for this. I tried the demo and did not like it, seemed like a Phrase editor taken out of place without also having the Pattern editor included.


(James Britt / Neurogami) #4

I do but never use it.

I need to change up my workflow to see what results, and play around with Redux in Reaper.


(joule) #5

Own it, don’t use it. Want to use it, but turns out it doesn’t quite work playing more than one phrase polyphonic from my DAW.


(dblue) #6

Just wondering if having both is useful or overkill?

I see that you already own a Renoise license.

Do you actually use any other hosts (DAWs, sequencers, whatever terminology you prefer) apart from Renoise, or is Renoise your primary music composition and production tool?

If you already own Renoise and don’t really use any other software for music, then there’s really not much point in owning Redux, since Redux is basically just a slightly stripped down version of Renoise’s instrument/sampler “engine” in VST/AU plugin form.

In other words, everything that Redux does, Renoise can already do that (and more) — with the added benefit of actually having the main tracker sequencer on top of it all.

Either way, simply give the Redux demo a try and see if it makes any sense to you :slight_smile:


(random) #7

i do not have redux yet but will buy it.
redux is simply one or the best vst sampler (I do not know all but try foolishly too many) which is rather uninteresting for tracker fans.

@ m.arthur

By the way thanks for your post there

https://forum.renoise.com/t/im-an-idiot-redux-is-perfect/48337

i dont know this before


(danoise) #8

If you already own Renoise and don’t really use any other software for music, then there’s really not much point in owning Redux

Hey, rendering .xrni to.xrni is not pointless, or? badteeth.gif


(dblue) #9

Hey, rendering .xrni to.xrni is not pointless, or? badteeth.gif

If the Renoise plugin grabber could capture any type of instrument, not just plugins, that would indeed be rather bloody nifty!

Yo dawg, we heard you like sampling samplers, so we put a sampler in your sampler, so you can sample while you… and so on, and so forth…


(TheBellows) #10

Hey, rendering .xrni to.xrni is not pointless, or? badteeth.gif

It’s very useful if you have an xrni that uses a lot of resources, because you can then load it in Redux and plugin grab it, turning it into a sample only instrument. This makes it very easy to experiment with sounds without having to worry about the rising CPU and it means that you can basically stack as many FX instances as you like.


#11

I bought it because it was cool (and also to just support Renoise, encourage development etc…). In reality I rarely use it, every time I fire it up in a DAW and try and use it, I get annoyed and just fire up Renoise. Using it within Renoise is interesting, as has been pointed out with the plugin grabber and also phrases of phrases can interesting, particularly for percussion.

If I spent the time to build my personal XRNI library I would probably use it more.


(The Empty Self) #12

I do but never use it.

I need to change up my workflow to see what results, and play around with Redux in Reaper.

‘i use it in Reaper’’ most of the drum instruments i uploaded for the forums downloads i made them for that specific purpose …Redux ability to …route diff samples to diff modulation sets and then to diff fx chains allow to me to process and entire kit using just one instance and 1 channel in reaper !!!

so yeah super nice …also as someone mention before the ability to have my renoise instruments loaded in reaper

like this instrument !!

http://forum.renoise.com/index.php/files/file/669-linndrum-lm1-processed/

i hate REWIRE :slight_smile:


(Raul (ulneiz)) #13

I acquired a license from Redux knowing that I was not going to use it. I did it to support Renoise’s development, which is what really interests me.The best way to support Renoise’s development is to pay, money.


(joule) #14

I did it to support Renoise’s development, which is what really interests me.The best way to support Renoise’s development is to pay, money.

Same here. And how do you feel, now that Renoise has been mismanaged and neglected for 2+ years? :wink:


(The_Traveler) #15

Same here. And how do you feel, now that Renoise has been mismanaged and neglected for 2+ years?

C’mon, no need to reopen that conversation here. Plenty of other threads for it.

Cheers.


(joule) #16

Wrong. Since he’s using an absurd ground to state it’s a good idea to take an action, it’s totally justified that someone points it out.

No hard feelings, but that particular argument is obviously invalid and shouldn’t be made to new/potential users.


(m.arthur) #17

Owning Redux is next to irrelevant in my opinion if you have Renoise running too.

Except that Redux can be loaded in another DAW as a plugin, and Renoise cannot. So if your situation is that you want to use another DAW for your work, but retain all of your Renoise sampler instruments, then Redux is hardly redundant at all, it’s incredibly useful.

It just depends on one’s individual DAW approach. If you’re a hardcore Renoise user, of course Redux is redundant. But if you use other DAWs at all, it provides a very specific functionality – Renoise’s sampler, available ELSEWHERE.

-M


(m.arthur) #18

Just look how nice Redux* looks inside Bitwig Studio 2, practically looks like a new native bitwig sampler :slight_smile:

*I’m using the default Renoise skin inside Redux, which isn’t available by default, you have to import it manually from Renoise

8031 redux_bitwig.png


(encryptedmind) #19

Except that Redux can be loaded in another DAW as a plugin, and Renoise cannot. So if your situation is that you want to use another DAW for your work, but retain all of your Renoise sampler instruments, then Redux is hardly redundant at all, it’s incredibly useful.

It just depends on one’s individual DAW approach. If you’re a hardcore Renoise user, of course Redux is redundant. But if you use other DAWs at all, it provides a very specific functionality – Renoise’s sampler, available ELSEWHERE.

-M

I don’t use anything else apart from MPC hardwares and mobile apps like Caustic and Audio Evolution and other stuff like guitar processors… Renoise for tracking specific stuff and more elaborate arrangments as and when required. Akai MPC 2.0 also runs as a plugin but is not it comparably more convenient to have Renoise running as a plugin like MPC software than a partial subset of its features as Redux?


(The_Traveler) #20

No hard feelings, but that particular argument is obviously invalid and shouldn’t be made to new/potential users.

None at all. Opinions are just that, opinions.

Cheers.