Duplicating a VST within the Instrument Selector

About one week ago I switched from Renoise 2.7.1 to Renoise 3.2.1. What a change! New layout and completely different in handling. It took a while to get used to it. But there is one thing I ask myself if it’s a kind of bug or did it simply change compared to Renoise 2.7.1. I’m talking about this:

When you duplicate a plugin within the instrument selector in Renoise 2.7.1. and you change the selected instrument in the duplicated plugin, the instrument name of the selected instrument in the duplicated plugin displayed in the list changes, too. There is ALWAYS the name of the current used instrument displayed in the list.

When you duplicate a plugin within the instrument selector in Renoise 3.2.1. and you change the selected instrument in the duplicated plugin, the instrument name of the selected instrument in the duplicated plugin displayed in the list DOESN’T change.

Did I miss something? I hope so! For me the handling of creating a song would get a little bit more inconvenient. In Renoise 2.7.1 I used to duplicate a VST within the instrument selector and change the instrument in the duplicated VST, so that I didn’t had to load the VST and the selected soundbank all over and over again for the case that I wanted to use several instruments from the same soundbank in one song. Now in Renoise 3.2.1 you will have to rename the duplicated VST into the name of the current used instrument by hand every time, and there is no option of copy and paste. So you literally have to type in every single letter by hand every time you change the instrument in a duplicated plugin. Or is there hope? Does it still work that way somehow in Renoise 3.2.1? Or is it about to come in the next update? Or is it planned like this, no more automatic change of the current used instrument’s name when changing the instrument, and if so, why?

Thanks for helping out! :slight_smile:

? What is the problem?

Do mean using multiple midi channels on a single vsti?

Or is this satire?

I think that the preset name doesn’t change when he’s changing presets in the plugin program cooser (the Renoise own one) of the duplicated plugin. Yes, it seems there’s a bug.

I think taktik did that by a purpose we do not understand in this context.

Like Mastrcode said. Wenn you duplicate a VST plugin within the instrument selector and you change the preset of the duplicated VST plugin, the name of the current used preset shown in the list doesn’t change. And when you’re doing this several times to avoid loading the VST and the soundbank all over again and again, there isn’t any overview anymore, because every preset has the same name in the list (instrument selector). And no, this is NO satire, in Renoise 3.2.1 this ist absolutely real! And it’s annoying.

Unfortunately this bug is still not fixed one year after the report. :frowning_face:
For me this is really a major impact in terms of the workflow.

I will explain it again with some pictures:

Step 1:
Load a VST

Step 2:
Right click on the loaded VST and duplicate the VST by selecting Duplicate

Step 3:
Select the duplicated VST

Step 4:
Change the selected preset from instrument A to instrument B

Step 5:
Watch the preset name of the duplicated VST, which won’t change, too

Usually the instrument name should also switch if you switch presets, but this isn’t the case.

I can’t say since when this bug occurs, all I can say is that in Renoise version 2.7.1 this bug doesn’t exist. It exists since version 3.2.1 or earlier, I can’t tell exactly because I skipped every single version in between 2.7.1.and 3.2.1. And it’s pretty inconvenient in terms of the workflow and/or in terms of the overview of your instruments. Should be fixed. Thank you! :slightly_smiling_face:

This started in version 3.1 and it’s the # that’s inserted for the duplicated instrument that’s preventing the auto-renaming. If you remove it then it works as before.

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Thanks, I will checkt it out. :+1:
But would it be possible to keep off the # just like in Renoise version 2.7.1?
It doesn’t make any sense having the # at the beginning of the instrument name. If you really want to keep the duplication as it is you can also add the # afterwards, which would be the better order.

…or just give the text of duplicate another color.

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