I am trying to setup Renoise to work with Expert Sleepers Silent Way plugins and hardware to generate MIDI and CV signals going out to my Eurorack and MIDI hardware synths. In order to work, the fader level must be set to a perfect 0.0 dB level in order to drive the Expert Sleepers hardware correctly. I have tried setting the headroom setting to zero and then the fader on the track at zero, but it doesn’t work. I know that in other DAWs the way pan is implemented can also affect the output level in a way that trips up Expert Sleepers hardware.
Any member here with experience on this who can share some advice?
Im guessing that it will maybe will be answer, but in song setting you have track headroom that is by default value of every track [i have at -6db] So to have it to 0db you need to change this setting OR add this value of gain to track. This is setting i do believe per song, so if you want to persist to all new songs you need to save it as default templete.
That was the first thing I tried but without any luck. The only thing that is kind of working is setting the fader at the end of the device chain to 0.001 dB. However, I know for a fact that this is not achieving 0 dB to the line outs because the outputs on the Expert Sleepers ES-5 eurorack module are not working as expected (interfere with each other). In other DAWs I could solve this problem by typing in 0 dB in the channel fader.
I’m not sure I understand which input you’re tryin to change, but I’ve just tried editing numerical values in effect chains etc. with my keyboard and it works. Depending on the input, you just have to click or double-click the number.
The problem I am having is not with changing values in Renoise. The problem is finding the right setting for the mixer channel such that it would be able to correctly output signal at the exact level needed to drive the Expert Sleepers ES-5 eurorack module via the Silent Way ES-5 controller plugin.
The ES-5 plug-in output needs to pass through a stereo channel, at exactly 0dB. That is what I am having problems achieving in Renoise.
I think that I have explained what I mean in a confusing manner. What I meant is how to achieve a perfect 0.0 dB output level from a track (I mean 0.0 dB at the physical sound card output the track is sending to) when the audio generating plugin is outputting a signal at 0.0 dB. The way the Expert Sleepers Silent Way plugins work is by generating audio at different levels to drive eurorack modules assuming that a signal coming out of the VST instrument at 0.0 dB can be sent straight to the sound card and exit at exactly 0.0 dB.
Bumping this because I’m curious if you ever resolved your issues with using Silent Way inside Renoise? I’m debating getting an ES-3 to control modular but Googling Silent Way and Renoise only brings up problems - obviously this might not be the whole story though so I’m hoping someone’s had success with using them together!
If it ends up being a bad combination I might just have to stick with an FH-2 for MIDI to CV instead.
Is this exact 0db really necessary? The plugin just outputs a pulse track, if the outboard module recieves it, it locks on to the audio pulse. I do the same with clockpulses from any source, just up te volume until it’s starting to run.
Haven’t used them myself since I was researching it before deciding what to buy, but that’s only clocks you’re talking about, right? I’m guessing the problems are more with CV, pitch tracking etc.
Didn’t think of that, that’s a different story then. Sounds tedious that it needs to be exactly 0db output. On the other hand, expert sleepers seems to be a top notch system, so it probably works.
reckon you could trial and error this easily enough
play a square wave sample normalised to 0db
add or remove gain to your channel until you find the point of clipping. hopefully its a number thats not too weird - finding a value with 3 decimal places might be tricky
I got curious so I drew a square in the sample window and maximized it. Then when I play it as a single shot, no looping, it measures in at -4.842 dB in Renoise’s mastering section. If I then boost it by 4.842 dB with the Maximizer and set its Threshold to 0.000 dB it measures in at a 0.000 dB in the mastering section.
However, YouLean measures the True Peak as 0.1dB above zero. Exported it to WAV and opened it in Audacity there it looks like a perfect 0.000 but YouLean measures the TP as 0.8dB above zero.
I have no idea why YouLean in Audacity thinks the TP 0.7dB higher than in Renoise. But maybe that’s part of the issue you’re running into? I really don’t know.