I like Bantai’s idea. The picture really shows how simple the overview will be.
danoise however, said the coloring is a bad idea for very good reasons.
So I would like to point out again on Bantai’s suggestion of pulsating.
The number in the patternbox that comes next can pulsate.
looks more elegant than an underline, and easy to see which track should be ready because it looks alarming.
Bantai said:
Having the status of Follow controlling the playback type (which I think is what you suggest) means you can’t retain your follow mode preference while using the ‘live’ behaviour… Milkytracker works the other way around - Follow status is dictated by the behaviour, i.e. the currently playing pattern (as long as it’s currently being displayed on screen) follows, if Follow Mode is enabled overall, but when a non-playing pattern is being viewed, Follow Mode is obviously disabled.
Bantai - please forgive me if I’ve misinterpreted, stated the obvious or just picked up on a semantic issue where none exists! I can’t actually remember how Modplug does it, because once Milky appeared, I never had to open up Modplug again 
I think we largely agree, though. And yes, I like the pulsating patternbox idea - it’s very in keeping with the concept of a ‘live’ mode. Keep up the constructive input, guys!
+1 that would be a great feature!
Yeah, let’s clarify.
Lightbomb: you mean that follow mode is equal to the current pattern sequence behavior, and having it disabled will allow free movement through patterns (without affecting playback position). If so, we’re talking about the same thing.
Bantai, you want to be able to “schedule” a specific pattern (by means of alt-clicking)? I see this as an additional feature, the 2, 4 and 5 order kind of confused me.
So, if all of these ideas were rolled into one, we would have follow mode turned on by default. Alt-clicking a pattern in the sequence would make it flash, to indicate that it had been scheduled for playback.
Turning follow mode off would cause the dotted line thing to appear, allowing free pattern roaming/editing, until it got turned back on again, at which point the flashing would start (instead of the crawling outline thingy) for the currently active pattern.
+1 for some kind of simple and temporary live solution, yes!!
will soon be playing live, this would be perfect for me as well.
and what i’d REALLY like is if triggering patterns back and forth could be done also without
using a mouse, gives a better feel while playing live and looks better too, imho 
customable
shortcuts would be superior.
I like the idea. Actually I dont really care about the live mode, but I would love to be able to edit one pattern while playing back another.
+1 solid concept
please, together with:
http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?s=&…st&p=134358
(Option D)
green or whatever, asynchronous pattern edit rules!!!
Have really not thought about the actual implementation but how about (ability) to separate patterns and playlist/play queue all together? So it would be possible to queue patterns/pattern sequences into playlist and scroll through and edit others? Maybe some way to group pattern sequences and queue them as an unit? With ability to use separate outputs? Wouldn’t this be really good for live usage?
Just a throw in the air, needs much more thinking, but as an idea appeals to me.
Decoupled play/edit cursor is a different feature than the subject of this topic. It will have massive development impact and since it is not a beta related idea/suggestion/question, perhaps we should discuss it further in http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?sho…hl=asynchronous @ the ideas and suggestions forum.
Yes, sorry didn’t mean to spam. Seems just like a workaround for bigger conceptual problem.
I agree: we all look forward to the revolutionary sequence-related concepts/implementations that are surely just around the corner ( 
) but the aim of my having resurrected this minor request is that live-performing Renoise users might have something to whet their appetite in the meantime.
I also think it would be a good way to kickstart debate about a fully-fleged live mode - all sorts of things will occur to people on stage, using a this small feature, that might never have occurred to them in the studio and while posting on this forum
Denim - I use a mouse only when absolutely necessary, so I had keyboard shortcuts in mind when I made the original post. In Milky, when live mode is enabled, patterns are browsed with shift+left/right, so in Renoise I’d assume it would be ctrl+up/down. But I think that sort of functionality is implicit and would be inherited from current behaviour, since all this feature would practically do is arrange the playback order and postpone the pattern-switch.
+1
Let it be known that I signed up for the forum just so I could +1 this!
I’ve done live stuff with Renoise before but this little change would open up a lot of possibilities.
+1 definately
like Bantais solution. ( sorry danoise 
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+1 for this tiny live mode too
one of my wishes since day one.
i like both ideas,danoise have some good points about the colour
I see what Danoise meant about the colour, yeah, but since the shading is in effect already, what about a flashing box? I mean given the context, a flashing alert would be a great way to keep the musician aware of where the playback is about to jump to! The flashing box never actually got implemented in Milky, and I’m not sure why, but it would help in a dark club…
May I suggest a numbered labeling system instead of underlined? Just one smaller digit in a corner of the affected frames to reflect the play order… like what XMPlay does
teknocide - like XMplay does? I’m not sure I understand which XMplay feature you’re referring to…
Anyway, numbered queueing is a sound proposal, but the thrust of my initial suggestion was that this feature would be as simple and basic as possible in the short term while something more fully-featured, i.e. with complex queueing/precedence ordering/etc could wait until the eagerly awaited sequencer overhaul.
Having said that, I don’t think numbering would be too complex in the code at this stage…it all depends on what Taktik and the other developers think about this proposal in principle and how much time they’re willing to spend on it at this stage. Because, I swear to God, as soon as this feature appears, I’ll perform live and in public with Renoise that very night after wetting myself profusely with excitement.