i’ve read thru your posts, and i’m glad to see there are so many that are interested in being able to perform live with renoise. when version 2.1.0 came i was happy happy to see that we’re getting somewhere.
what’s really missing is proper midi-mapping !!
i’ve spent a few hours downloading VST instrument and -effects. i’ll see if any of them can do me any good. i’ve got a korg padkontrol which in theory can be used in 2 instances of renoise, or renoise and another application. midi port A and port B make this possible. my soundcard, native instr. audio kontrol 1 has 3 midi buttons and a knob. the knob can be assigned to xx CC, while button 1 + knob, button 2 + knob and so on give me even more knobs. i just placed an order on a korg nanokontrol, which has 8 sliders and 8 knobs and a few buttons if i’m not mistaking. next on my shoppinglist is a pair of studio monitors and a midi-keyboard.
It’s been a few months I’m using renoise live in a band, but I’m very frustrated because I can’t really see how to interact with the software, appart from starting the song, tweaking some effects parameters through a MIDI controler, muting tracks and switching from one pattern to another.
I’m not trying to do something DJ style, so running two instances of renoise and using them like two turntables isn’t very interesting either.
Anyone found another way to interact with renoise ?
At this point, I’m thinking about using Renoise to compose a song, exporting it as isolated loops and loading them in a looper that allows me to break them down, shuffle them and so on.
renoise doesn’t yet have enough midi control functionality to make it an intuitive live performance tool imo…
i use an alesis mmt-8 with nord modular, emu esi-2000, korg r3, akai mfc42, tc m300 and a mackie onyx 1640 desk.
The earlier comments about proper midi mapping are definitely right.
What could really push live tracking as viable and something completely new would be if you could bind pattern commands to midi.
I really like the possibilities opened up by changing the LPB, the pattern break command, and the pattern delay command.
If you could instantly hit the pattern delay command adjusting the amount by rotary dial or something, then jump to another part of the pattern, looping that for 4 lines. There’s some real nice opportunities there, totally different to ableton and such.
I was wondering, seeing as people don’t really perform live renoise, what software do you actually use? I’m looking into “i am the mighty jungulator” right now but do you guys know of any other options…
That said - even though I own Live - I’m currently working on some Renoise tracks with the aim of playing live with Renoise. I’m focussing on what I CAN automate/MIDI map rather than thinking about what I can’t map…
Amazing easy hack you’ve got there. Kinda like pattern select via midi.
+1
Because:
Well, it ain’t a live-set that way, right? I would be happy to present myself as a live-act, instead as dj. So for me, yeah, it is worth the cost. There are so many djs, and not that much livesets. Besides, it fun! ALso: I don’t want to export my tracks, I don’t want to load them in any external program whatsoever. I’ve got this great software tool here in front of me, and I would love to take it on stage. Show it to people. “the game is played in the field”, and games need good tools. A dj-app ain’t gonna cut ut, pun intended
I’d also really love to use renoise live. I’m controlling everything from my BCR2000, and it seems it’s possible to control volume and mute (using a gainer plugin) on goup tracks. But moving around in the song structure from the BCR is not possible at the moment.
if anyone is interested, here is a link to some recordings from a concert where i was using my max/msp + renoise patch, to create improvised electroacousticy noise and drone type of stuff:
i posted some videos and this patch a while back but this is the first time i actually used it ‘live’ outside my bedroom… worked okay i think (nothing crashed at least!)
easy enough to control renoise effects with the nocturn, just set the midi #cc of the nocturn controls to the parameters you want to control in renoise by right clicking.
one thing you could try is to make a fairly simple midi patch in plogue bidule (it was bidule you were using?) which goes between renoise and the nocturn. by doing this you can map nocturn controls to mulitple parameters in renoise (ie. one dial controls filter cutoff, reverb time and ring modulator freq. simulatenously). you would also be able to record automation in this patch without too much trouble. i actually thought of doing this a while ago in max/msp and posting it as an application build, where you can select all the midi parameters in the patch, save them etc. but i haven’t had time and besides can’t be too long before you can map multiple parameters to the same #cc within renoise… also i seem to recall someone posted something which did this more effectively for the korg nanokontrol which is mainly what i’m using for this over the nocturn.
looping patterns via midi would be a little more tricky, in theory it may be possible by converting midi to direct-input keystrokes which ‘press’ the keys to affect looping. but i think it would be a flawed way of doing it; for this really we need further control over renoise via midi…
A selection to loop