MBC is about having a little fun here and you folks who posted your XRNS are the best as it will help beginners to have a look at interesting tunes. also kudos to you who posted reviews of all tunes. I always enjoy this little competition but have to say itās a bit unfortunate not everyone voted as it makes the whole thing fall somewhat flat, so I am wondering how we can make MBC better going forward, letās have that discussion in another thread for a MBC 15 some day.
100%! But Iām not sure if thereās room for improvement in terms of MBC. In fact this is not a real competition because you cannot win without luck. The winner doesnāt win because he received the most votes for making the ābestā song. The winner wins because heās lucky in terms of the drawing (what shouldnāt be part of a competition). I think voting should be mandatory for every participant and the winner should win only because of the voting result. Those who donāt vote should be disqualified to ensure a fair result. The voting system needs to be revised, too. 1st place 5 points, 2nd place 3 points, 3rd place 1 point. And honestly I personally think that bonus points for Renoise sound design only or no VST usage is neither fair nor necessary IF itās about the music for the purpose of a ācompetitionā. BUT if itās just about having some fun without any goals then nothing has to be changed. At this point I would like to mention it would be A LOT more fun if every participant would participate 100%, and that means to vote, to write reviews and to post the xrns. Otherwise this whole ācompetitionā thing doesnāt make sense. While weāre at it, a competition needs prizes. I think it would be cool if every participant would contribute something to the prize pool, or all the participants throw something together and the winner takes it all. Of course it doesnāt need to be a million dollarsā¦ Itās the gesture that counts, right?
Iām not sure if MBC was ever intended to be a strict song competitionā¦ seems like itās mostly been a fun exercise in learning and sharing song files. But I donāt really know the history. That said, Iād be totally down with it being organized differently, and a real song competition could be lots of fun and push people to write the best songs they canā¦ I hereby nominate @TNT to organize MBC 15
Imagine someone whoās never using breakbeats and loops in general and whoās primarily using VSTs organising a ācompetitionā about breakbeats and samples.
Check the rules of the first MBC and youāll see that obviously Iām not the right one for this, because the desired music and the way of how to compose actually is the opposite of what Iām doing. You can also check the MBC history. If I would organise MBC itās probably no ārealā MBC anymore. But as I said last time when we talked about this, I could imagine to initiate another ācompetitionā or at least to help someone organising this stuff.
Right, but who should vote when it comes to MBC14 if not the participants? The fucking troll?
Today this is a kind of community project, isnāt it?
I think every year there should be a Renoise contest organized by the Renoise team giving away at least one Renoise license and of course anyone of us can help because the Renoise team is very small.
Looking at the discussion here, maybe MBC could use a reform. Maybe we could have two categories: one for hardcore trackers with extreme limitations, smallest filesize etc. And one for purely the best song. Different points and prizes. And all participants have to vote! And anyone wanting to make two tracks could participate in both categories. What do you guys think?
Iām totally down with any and all competitions, challenges, contests, etc. In fact, aside from the speedcomp host and @Raegae dropping one apiece, Iām pretty sure Iāve initiated the last 4 or 5 comps (2 MBCs, white noise challenge, sine wave challenge, found sound challenge)ā¦ So, step it up, mofos
Anyone can start a comp/challenge/contest! This ish is far from organized or hegemonic. Iād love to see some more of that going on around here, and I would in all likelihood participate
doooooo iiiiiiiitā¦
I may want to turn over the reigns on MBC next time in any case, and I donāt care if itās even an all VST challenge. throw down the gauntlet! See who picks it up
only if they vote for themselves, which no one has had the audacity to do. And letās face it, we (the participants) are likely the only ones who care enough to vote in the first place, and some participants donāt even bother with that
If I were to organize I think votes would be hidden until deadline, participants who vote gets +3 points (to incentivise at least voting), providing your XRNS gives +2 points, mini-reviews adds 0.1 point per review, prizes would be virtual trophies you could slap on your instagram or whatever, also we could have some awards for āBest mixā, āBest drumsā etc. to vote on.
Ah, some side quests, good idea.
But I wouldnāt give points for voting and posting the xrns, this should be mandatory. And letās not fuck around with peanuts for reviews. Either reviews should be mandatory, too, or 5 extra points for reviewing every single song. You donāt have to write a book about the songs, just a few wordsā¦
Iām OK with voting and posting XRNS being mandatory but it may limit some submissions thatās why I think itās better to incentivise instead of demand, they wonāt win anyway if they donāt vote or post it you know!?
Alright Iām off with the idea of .1 per review and give whatever is decided a fixed amount of points, but I donāt fancy giving 20-30 reviews no matter how small they are, feels like too many and I am not enjoying writing reviews to a music style I donāt like or have experience with
Letās move the discussion to Sokobanās thread.
Hello! I got tagged in this thread and it arrived into my email.
Firstly, kudos on MBC 14. Iāll eventually update that crummy MBC web page on trotch to link back.
Mostly, I would like to comment about reforming MBC into an official Renoise contest:
Please donāt.
It was created because I really, really, REALY disliked those. It evolved into a community art project. Keep it going! If itās not a once-a-year inside joke, then call it something else? Not MBC?
and congrats to SimulatedZen 
Iāve been super busy with life. But hurray!
