actually, my girlfriend is the one who wants to do this MDA (which she already purchased) and i needed some feedback to help me sort this out. everything that has been said is all very insightful and i think covers the substance (or at least how to approach it) very well.
personally i don’t think the MDA/MDMA experience would be as valuable as something like psilocybin (which i find fascinating). psychedelic euphoria can still be achieved and the LD50 is really high.
Well, if you want, here is the chemistry behind it (written by Alexander Shulgin, the “father” of MDMA):
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online…pihkal100.shtml
and although you might already know about it, www.erowid.org is a good place for honest information.
All I can say is, as with all drugs, start with a responsible (small) dose so you know how sensitive you are to it. If the onset isn’t happening, don’t dose again until you know it had no effect.
I think it is wrong to say that drugs are “artificial”, as you are only manipulating the chemicals that are already in your brain. Some people skydive for the same effect, others fuck, it really amounts to the same thing.
Im gonna try to avoid commenting on this post, but ill tell you this, in the end she’ll be better off not taking it.
Death… cyanide… heroine… aids … are all entirely natural too… what’s your point? 
umm, i would like to try it also 
enjoyed psilocybin quite a lot in the past. mdma sounds very interesting. what’s the hype here? just take it and share your experience. if you are afraid (thats natural) have someone sober around. good luck fellow psychonaut!
p.s. i remember, once i read an interview with moby, where he said, he would like to take mdma every evening, if only he knew its longtime effects on the human brain. good luck one more time to you, have an outstanding experience!
Moby also regularly has panic attacks… hmmm… I wonder what could be causing that?
a whole bottle of nyquil, with No Guaifenesin = totally f’n awesomeness.
mdma used over prolonged periods will remove areas of your brain to something being resembling swiss cheese.
if you can find pure dextromethorphan hydrobromide. do it!
on a really nice night spend it outside.
I agree. Drop some shrooms, you’ll see some shit. 
I used to do E back in the day, but then I moved. Did it once since then, woke up next day with these weird blisters on my arms. You need to find people you can trust to get the good stuff, so it’s not cut with god knows what.
i actually have a bit of (regrettable) experience with dextromethorphan. it was the first psychedelic experience i’ve had and did it probably 4 times. but after taking mushrooms, by comparison it felt very much like detromethorphan was causing brain damage with the overall weird dissociative feeling. the experiences were amazing however. it was the very first “oh my, i’m jesus” moment in my life 
and i’m by no means a theist.
well technically in Zen, you are Jesus.
Drugs are bad, except in… wait a minute.
Actually my point was that its no better to do mda or mdma than to do shrooms or weed because the later are no more natural than the former.
and I’m not entirely sure your little list is similar to what I was talking about. The brain contains many naturally occurring psycedelic endogenous substances that cause different mental states - they can be released during dreaming, sex, skydiving, etc… I’m not sure any of those fit the bill, although heroin one could quibble about.
many believe that mdma works by releasing oxytocin into the brain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin
Breastfeeding and sexual arousal also release oxytocin.
but yes, in general, whats natural isn’t always good.
Yeah, some people have said it (or any other dissociative) might cause “Olney’s Lesions”, basically brain damage…
well now… claiming that mdma causes brain holes, and then suggesting a dissociative that might actually cause brain holes? http://www.dartmouth.edu/~healthed/groups/…rdrugs/dxm.html
“Heavy, chronic use of DXM or other dissociatives (like Ketamine and PCP) can cause Olney’s Lesions to form on the brain. This type of brain damage affects memory, cognitive ability, and emotional behavior. While some studies suggest that stopping the chronic use of dissociatives can allow for minor damage to heal, more serious cases have been documented where the user’s mental deterioration continues regardless, often ending in epilepsy and permanent psychosis.”
not an attack at you ner, but shining on this “natural” debate.
mushrooms: “According to Leo Hollister, Jonathon Ott, and John W. Allen, one would have to consume their body weight in fresh mushrooms or eat approximately 19 grams of the pure chemical substance to bring on death” (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_faq.shtml#a)
marijuana: impossible to overdose, you’d pass out as a result of oxygen deprivation eventually. (empirical evidence as well as documented, try it)
MDMA on the other hand is, by comparison, more toxic. you’re also more likely to reach a lethal dose simply because they are cut with non-mdma substances, while laced marijuana and incorrect mushrooms are rare (especially if intentionally grown). impure man-made substances are much easier to encounter.
Isn’t the maximum purity something like 86%?
That’s why you should always take MDMA crystals. Gives a much purer and cleaner roll. Be carefull though, it hits hard!
I’m glad I live in the Netherlands… I believe we are one of the few countries where you can test your drugs for free and totally anonymous. For MDxx substances, simply bring 1 pill or 80mg to a testing point, and one week later you have the result. It seems we’re having a “xtc-crisis” though. Almost half of the circulating pills have mCPP in them 
it’s nicer to take a little bit of amphetamine with your mdma
so you won’t ‘drown’ in your own emotions. hard to explain
in words, but it ‘helps’ keeping your feet ON the ground
that was awfully one sided NER, why not just prove my claim wrong?
would be more productive toward your goal right?
in regards to the debate dxm is also believed to be a synthetic form of “some naturally occuring shit” that is released into “the brain”. and since it is much more easily obtained & legally obtainable, it is not subject to the unregulated standards of clandestine operations.
but yeh mdma is unregulated so i can say just about anything i want about it, even though i did actually watch a documentary several years ago about prolonged use of mdma being an attributing factor in these “mysterious brain holes” popping into the thread.
[i am partially being sarcastic]
What’s wrong with being a little EMO? jk jk jk
No, but seriously. If you’re drowning in happy emotions, there’s nothing wrong with that.
i guess i want cut pills then
well, the speed makes you more aware of your happyness, it’s like having sex with the lights on.
edit: mushen, there are too many pills and too little time to figure out what is good and what is not.
since most mdma in Europe comes from Holland anyway, that’s one little step away from a slow and
horrid brain mutilation.
if your gonna try MDMA powder try it in small doses at first, bomb in a rizla paper no bigger than a size of a conventional pill, Dont snort or smoke it !
I also took a lot of extacy pills when i was a teenager, had some awesome experiences in the 1990’s as stuff was cleaner but nowadays , its true, a lot of pills are poorly made. They can be very weak, cut with any other drugs (ketamine, heroin) or just fake and give you a nasty stomach!! One batch had everybodys jaws shivering uncontrollably probably down to fucked up chemical formulas.
MDMA makes u feel Great and 95 per cent of the time you will have the best night ever, BUT it has side effects which make you stand out in a crowd lol … personally i wouldnt risk it unless you are sure its been tried/tested or from a good source! Your brain is very important remember !
Just my experiences…