I’m going to buy a new PC on which I will install Linux (MX Linux most likely)
Will Renoise profit when buying a separate graphics card or would you choose onboard graphic?
With my current i5 4460 and onboard graphic the GUI behaves sluggish when the track number is increasing. No such issues with an AMD PROCESSOR on a Lenovo laptop.
Either I let it build from that shop
or I get something like that Lenovo here
Ajother option would be a Cirrus7 fanless PC. They are known to run Linux well.
What would you recommend and how are your experiences with Linux / Renoise and AMD vs. INTEL?
Personally I would go for a Ryzen based machine, largely because of how much support AMD has for the Linux project and the good driver support. The Lenovo you posted looks ok, but DDR4 is older tech now and I’d be wary of buying hardware that is stuck on an older memory platform. I don’t like to make recommendations without knowing your budget, but there are a lot of very good “Mini PCs” these days with great processors, can be upgraded and are very efficient.
Ryzen 9 processor, mobile variant but still highly capable - 32GB of DDR5 RAM which is very fast, a very good integrated GPU (Radeon 780M I believe) and plenty of storage - RAM and Storage can be replaced/upgraded. Will not draw huge amounts of power either. It has a good amount of I/O as well. Naturally, buying something in this form factor means you can’t buy a new processor or motherboard down the line - it is possible to build something yourself with more future-proofing in terms of upgrades, it depends on how you feel about doing that. I could help you with the components you would need to build something capable.
Edit: those Cirrus machines are very expensive for what they offer, the base configuration is quite poor in terms of spec and upgrade prices are eye-watering.
I’ m aware of the minisforum, beelink, geekom PCs, but when buying them you basically import them from China and in case of issues you might not get support. At least there are a lot of bad experience reports on Amazon. Alternative would be to buy directly from Amazon. There are some geekoms sold by Amazon.
That’s valid regarding the chinese machines, if you can find one sold by Amazon and not the manufacturer stores then it might be an option. Are you based in Germany? It’s difficult to know where to recommend, as I am based in the UK. If you look for something with DDR5 memory, it will be a good indication that the components are modern enough to give you some futureproofing without getting into massive details. Personally, I would go AMD over Intel as well if you intend to go Linux - just Google to make sure whichever manufacturer you choose doesn’t have a locked bootloader in BIOS (I know Huawei do this).
More than the Lenovo, but excellent specifications, no RGB and no GPU increasing costs (assuming you aren’t looking to game as your earlier links were non-gaming). Honestly, you could message the seller and ask to save money with a lower-end PSU?
They will be, but the kernel will need an update and then the distro’s to roll out updates - its better to be a little late to the hardware party on Linux. By now, 7000 series Ryzen is very well supported on most distro’s.
I would go for the AMD 7800X3D chip one, the first I linked for sure. It’s brutally powerful - my German is very rusty, but reading the detailed listing all the components are high quality - no obvious corners have been cut to meet a cost. If I was shopping for a PC, I would look very closely at that one @lilith
Yes, definitely a good purchase. The Ryzen 7700X is a good CPU as well, 8 cores and 16 threads, IF you wanted to save money. The 7800X3D is more geared at gaming and is essentially the 7700X with a double layered L3 cache. Another reason to avoid Intel is that their newer chips are hybrid architecture and some cpu schedulers dont play nice with it - half the cores, or more, are lower power efficiency cores and as audio needs single thread performance you can unintentionally hamper performance.
That site is good, spec “down” to the Ryzen 7700X and profit.
You must take care that your system would run well under Linux with all hardware. You may be lucky and everything just works, but Linux is still full of bugs everywhere and then you have to play the plumber to fix it somehow. I usually do refurbished Lenovo workstation gear, and this usually seems pretty compatible but on the other hand I get my machines when they are already some time on the market.
When you want to use new hardware, you have to either use bleeding edge Linux and maybe wait until it is really stable, or you can also use a more stable distribution and patch up your way until things work.
Even then I often have to fix a bug or two in Linux, or even had to live with a limitation. This can still happen up to today, so do proper research on all hardware if you can to avoid this.
The more specific/powerful your work task for Linux is, the more specialist problems you can expect to encounter - then you have to solve them with the help of the internet.
Hmm… The Cirrus7 PC are fully compatible with Linux and you can even have it preinstalled. The refurbished ThinkCentre from above is also certified for Ubuntu.
Disadvantge of a custom PC is also that you can’t return it if something does not work as expected.