honestly? you have the audacity to mention Audacity on the Renoise forum? you got some big balls, dude. The difference between you and me is that I’m not against new ideas. I’m against old ideas being ignored. Firmly against it.
There’s an argument going on about Renoise. Non-trackers are always complaining about how shit it is to have to learn keyboard shortcuts. Well, the devteam have learned from that, and made sure that as few keyboard shortcuts as possible are available to the user. Especially when we get new features. Shortcuts don’t matter, and this is a fact. Renoise is a faux tracker - half meant to be used with keyboard, half meant to be used the way the devteam wants you to use it (= i.e., DON’T use it, and if you DO, use the MOUSE). Why is there such a mindset? I think it’s a throwback to the “Yeah well, you might be able to track real quick on ST3/IT2, but we have really nice buttons in FT2 and can use the mouse and it’s so much better, and yours looks like excel” Sweden Vs. Finland -thinking. (FT2=Swedish,ST3=Finnish)
2.9 will probably introduce the total removal of KeyBindings.xml, because people don’t use keybindings that often. Once there’s an onslaught of hate-mail towards the devteam, they’ll go “are you sure you need to use these functions so often?” (Taktik’s exact words on adv.edit parameters shortcuts ©)
I’m willing to be as fucking belligerent about this shit as I can (=as I have to be). While I truly treasure the fact that we can just go in and script shit that’s been ignored by the devteam, I still have the same opinion I had when Renoise introduced scripting, which was this:
“goddamnit, now they won’t have to implement anything that makes sense, and instead they’ll tell you to script them. goddamn them all!!!”
FACT: We WILL continue on being surprised at all the cool features Renoise introduces.
FACT: we WILL continue on being surprised at how they’re not available as shortcuts.
FACT: we WILL MOST DEFINITELY continue on being surprised at how basic Renoise editing functions are not available as keyboard shortcuts.
FACT: THEY WILL NOT BUDGE.
FACT: We will STILL continue on using Renoise, NO MATTER WHAT.
FACT: non-coders will try to script some of the missing functions - and they’ll be around here on the forums in a random mess - i.e., grab all 30 (arbitrary number) scripts IF you’re capable of decode the names to “this is useful for me”
FACT: Go back to first fact.
Now that the dust has settled, I did think of one thing: we have a forum thread for API functions requests… We could have a stickied-up forum thead for keyboard shortcut function requests. This would quickly show whether we honestly need 2nd keybindings for every function, or if there are actual, less divine shortcuts that people would gladly use. I would of course have to choke on the fact that api function requests take precedence over keyboard shortcut requests, but I’d choke on that willingly, knowing that this isn’t my project and I’m not in charge.
p.s. did i mention renoise is really good and is the most advanced tracker on earth?