New Tool (2.8) Duplex: Grid Pie

[dby]

@danoise

In the monome128 configuration, the buttons in the lower left side are - intentionally - left unassigned.
You could add the follow-position switch yourself, by locating the part where Transport is defined and add the following:

  
follow_player = {  
 group_name = "Controls",  
 index = 6,  
},  
  

(just add it right underneath “start_playback”)

That’s the follow in the transport panel, right? I know of that one. I meant the follow_pos in GridPie settings.

I have already mapped Edit mode to lower left, and Rotate to the two above. Works well, but I might replace them with something more useful.

@danoise

Sure - I can easily see how this would improve things. Let’s make it the default for all monochrome devices

That would be excellent sir!

[dby]

Any news on blinking led state for monochrome devices? Sorry for being impatient, I’ve been checking the forum almost every day.

[danoise]

@dby

Any news on blinking led state for monochrome devices?

Hey dby, sorry I haven’t been active these last days, I have been busy moving and my new apartment still needs internet access.
But, I can promise that it’s not forgotten - on the contrary, I’m looking forward to these features myself

Btw: instead of checking the thread constantly, you know that you can subscribe to it? I use this feature quite a lot myself.

[dby]

Cool, I hope you’ll be happy with the new apartment. I have actually been quite busy too, haven’t made any music in a while. Ah yeah I’m already watching this topic, so checking the forums is some sort of obsessive compulsive behaviour I guess

[phooka]

heya been loving the pie lately one thing i wonder is, right now the arrow keys at the top scroll the display. I want to be able to “Set the selected track to prev/next relative to the current track.” instead and same for the sequence

But I’m like a monkey driving a car here…
no offense to monkeys.

I know what I’m goin for is select next/prev track and sequence but I don’t know how to achieve it.

[danoise]

@phooka

I know what I’m goin for is select next/prev track and sequence but I don’t know how to achieve it.

Ah, I’m assuming you’re using a Launchpad here?
Under all circumstances, the TrackSelector and PatternSequence apps are the ones you’re looking for.

Start by opening LaunchPad_GridPie.lua, or LaunchPad_GridPieFull.lua (whichever you are using) in a text editor. The files themselves are located in the tool folder, under /Controllers/Launchpad/Configurations

Then locate the lines containing h_prev, h_next, v_prev and v_next mappings and remove them (or comment them out using --[[and]] ).

Next, add new entries for the TrackSelector and PatternSequence apps:

TrackSelector = {
mappings = {
prev_track = {
group_name = “Controls”,
index = 3,
},
next_track = {
group_name= “Controls”,
index = 4,
},
}
},
PatternSequence = {
mappings = {
display_previous = {
group_name = “Controls”,
index = 1,
},
display_next = {
group_name= “Controls”,
index = 2,
},
}
},

Here’s a modified version of the GridPieFull config that does what you want
4172 LaunchPad_GridPieFull.lua

Of course, I should point out that this is a subject which has been described in great detail by Sato
http://forum.renoise…g-duplex-files/

[dby]

Always nice to see a new duplex beta. Good job!

Any chance of blinking led state for monochrome devices making the next update?

[danoise]

@dby

Always nice to see a new duplex beta. Good job!

Any chance of blinking led state for monochrome devices making the next update?

Absolutely, yes. Just wanted to get this update out there first

[dby]

Awsome! I was starting to feel like a nag here.

[phooka]

hey, thank you so much for your response danoise. i think you attached the wrong file, supposed to be the the lua not the xml. i am trying to work it out myself but am having a hard time figuring out where exactly to make my cut. ill keep trying, its good for learning and ill post back if i crak it! forgive me i have a hard time with lua

edit: Nevermid, got it! thanks http://pastebin.com/WX0pksyr

[danoise]

@phooka

i think you attached the wrong file

Oops, sorry about that. I fixed the link, but good to hear that you could figure it out anyway

[phooka]

using launchpad, gridpiefull, i’m noticing a problem with the navigator strip on the right side, specifically the top button on the right, to trigger the first 1/8 of the pattern. If you keep pressing it over and over again quickly, gridpie seems to glitch out and fill the gridpie row up with the row above it, instead of just triggering the first line of the current pattern. just try it! open new song, add a couple patterns, launch gridpie full, enable follow playhead, press play, and start tapping the top button of the righthand navigator strip. hopefully you will see what i am talking about, im a little thick so its hard to convey my thoughts!

edit: it also enables/disables the repeat pattern button randomly (located next to the play button) when this glitchiness occurs

sorry to be a pain!

[danoise]

phooka, thanks for reporting this. It seems to be the result of a complex interplay between the Navigator and Grid Pie

Basically, you are able to jump around inside patterns with continuous playback.
However, the first position is special since it will (when you are pressing the button just when exiting the first block) jump to the last line of the previous pattern
This is then picked up by grid pie, and will cause it to switch to that pattern - which, in itself, is the way it’s supposed to work. But in this case, isn’t what we want.

I have to think about a way to avoid this - probably a hackaround which will simply ignore pattern-switching when at the very end.

As for the loop button being highlighted, this is just the transport telling duplex that the pattern is looped (the grid pie pattern is always looped, but using a pattern sequence loop), and nothing to worry about.

[danoise]

Oki, I think the issue reported by Phooka is more or less solved now.

Anyone who feel like testing the new release, or are simply using Grid Pie, go fetch the new version here (Duplex beta releases)

[phooka]

Thanks so much for the quick update danoise. It does indeed function properly now so far! now back to groovin

[danoise]

@dby

Any chance of blinking led state for monochrome devices making the next update?

Finally!! Here is a version that has blinking LEDs for monochrome devices, such as the monome.

monome64 owners: I am lazy and have only made a monome128 configuration…
In order to display normal (unselected) content as lit LEDs, you need to tweak the palette. See how, in the “m128_GridPie.lua” configuration file

content_active = { val=true } -- this tells the monome to light up content  

4194 com.renoise.Duplex.0.98b29_gridpie_with_led_blink.xrnx

[dby]

Yeeehaaaw! I love it, no more need to memorize the whole layout of a song!

To be the ungrate, I’ll put in another feature request immediately: Would it be lots of boring work to make the blinking synced to BPM? Perhaps linked to LPB, and/or an option to set like half or double speed in the config file. Of course mostly a cosmetic crowdpleaser, but also a little helpful visual feedback.

[danoise]

Would it be lots of boring work to make the blinking synced to BPM? Perhaps linked to LPB, and/or an option to set like half or double speed in the config file.

Nope, a tempo-synced version isn’t that hard to make - already got this logic sorted out in the Recorder.
On the TODO list…

[batcat]

Hi there

Big fan of GridPie here, and I’ve just discovered today that the tool is able to record pattern changes live into the song data - YES!

This allows me to do something I’ve been wanting for a long while - create a series of patterns in Renoise, then live jam them out in order to create a rough song structure to work from.

However, on testing this I’ve ran into some issues

GridPie works fine in non-recording mode, creating aliased patterns no problem. It’s the session-record mode I encounter issues with. The manual says -

Finally, it’s worth mentioning that Grid Pie also come with a session-record mode. This is
identical to the normal recording mode, except that it will produce a continuous stream of new
patterns for as long as it’s active. To enable the session recording mode, enable song-follow
and edit-mode, and then turn off the pattern loop (which is enabled as the default when starting
Grid Pie).

So I arm playback-follow, edit-mode and remove the pattern loop, but strange things happen. Instead of creating a stream of patterns that are consistent with the originals, I get a broken up sequence of smaller ones. This is best illustrated in a screen recording I made -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpUmxnESydY

You can see me activating patterns via the launchpad, and a block of several new pattern sets being created at once instead of one. This behaviour seems to happen near the end of pattern playback.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? I could have a go at fixing it, just wanted to check it’s not me first. Thanks!

System info -

Windows 10 Pro

Renoise 3.1 64-bit

Launchpad Mini

[danoise]

Hey, good to hear you are using (well, WANT to use ) Grid Pie for sketching/jamming out a song structure.

I’ll take a look at the tool to see what goes wrong. Certainly looks strange…