For the record, I have no interest in a beatslicer myself either, although I did make some suggestions for extended sample offset commands that would enable beatslicer-like behaviour. I personally feel those would be more useful than a “beatslicer”, but that’s beside the point, and you can read about what I said in other threads anyway.
I agree with the idea that an application should be not bloated, but we’re not talking about bloat here, we’re talking about time-saving features. Features that could potentially make the entire process of creating music easier. And by “easier” I don’t mean “lazy”, I mean easier, more fun, more condusive to being creative and inspired, and less time spent doing very repetetive and mundane tasks which for many people can be a creative barrier. (And that does not say anything about the person’s skill level either, by the way, it’s a simple truth).
With regards to a clip-based pattern arranger concept, I see something that would only make the creation process more fun and freeform. I imagine the ability to easily grab one piece of my song, clone it, then quickly drop it into totally new areas in the song just to see what it sounds like. I’m imagining the ability to easily edit automation curves that span 4, 8, 16, or more, patterns. Or the ability to drastically alter the whole structure of my song easily, with just a few movements of the mouse, not by using the highly antiquated and awkward pattern order list, and definitely not by using 23765 keystrokes of copy/paste action.
I’m also talking about the ability to easily visualise my entire song with a quick glance, being able to see exactly what is happening and where, without having to memorise every single pattern and the exact order/position of everything. Memorising this data is quite easy when you are in the moment and first creating your song, but when you come back to that file 2 months later you have usually completely forgotten about most of the stuff you did.
I’m talking about tactile improvements to the interface that will only make Renoise more fun and intuitive to use. I am not talking about anything that detracts from the value of Renoise or tracking. I’ve been using trackers exclusively for my entire life for a reason… I don’t want the fundamentals to change, I simply want us to evolve a little bit here. We don’t need to be afraid of shit that will make our lives easier, we don’t need to be so ridiculously defensive and elitist about this. We can embrace certain features from other successful applications without killing Renoise.
If you can’t see that, then I honestly don’t know what else to say.
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