We have finally managed to get a beta version of the upcoming Renoise version ready. It’s already available on the Backstage Area (http://backstage.renoise.com) for all registered users.
Since this is the first beta release of a brand new major version, bugs and glitches are to be expected. Therefore we have created a new forum section dedicated to Renoise 1.8 bugreports and discussions: http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?showforum=23
A public (demo) version of Renoise 1.8 will be released as soon the beta cycle is over. This means that no beta version but release candidates will be released to the public. We cannot tell you any concrete release dates now, as we plan to test the current and following beta releases as long as necessary (untill everything is rock solid).
So, what’s new in this release?
Well, this time the change-log got pretty huge, so let us just point out some highlights:
Added a Mixer, for a fast access and total control of all used DSP effects and volume levels within Renoise. DSP effects can be easily accessed and modified (copied/pasted/ moved/deleted by keyboard shortcuts or drag’n’drop). Mini sliders (DSP parameter controls) can be optionally shown in the mixer strips for those DSP devices parameters, that you want to control via the Mixer. All components of the Mixer (mute/solo, panning, faders, volume, routings) can be hidden to get a better overview.
Introduced PRE/POST volume/pans: All tracks have now two sets of volume/pan parameters: The first one (PRE) is automatable, and will be applied prior to all other DSPs (how it used to be in earlier versions). The second one (POST) is not automatable, and was introduced for the final mixing/mastering process: It will be applied after all DSP devices, giving you the final control of the tracks volume without having to worry about already created automations.
All volume and pan parameters can also be MIDI mapped.
Recording in the Sample-Editor, which allows to create new samples on the fly, directly in Renoise. Signals can be either recorded cleanly (with no DSP FX), or be routed in realtime through any tracks DSP chain.
Added a “#Line-In Device” (registered users only), which allows you to directly route any of your sound-cards physical input into a DSP chain in Renoise.
Undo/redo is now available for all operations (with no exception).
New open (XML) file format for all exported Renoise files (except samples). To view the XML files for songs or the other documents, simply open the newly saved files with an unzip tool. Songs and instruments are still self contained, so nothing (except the new file extensions) has changed for those who do not want/need to edit/view the file contents. The new open file format will allow third party developers to easily write extension (Instrument or Pattern generators) or converters (from / to other file formats) for Renoise.
Unicode support: If you have the “Arial Unicode MS” font installed, nearly all characters you can think of can now be displayed in Renoise (for example in the Disk Browser). Japanese characters are supported without the “Arial Unicode MS” font, as soon as you have installed the operating systems default fonts for Japan language support.
Patterns can now be rendered into separate files as well (registered users only). This way you can easily create sample loops out of your songs, to use them in other programs.
Thanks to the Alpha Test Team this version should be pretty stable already but bugs ARE to be expected. You can help you squashing them by reporting issues right on this board in the “Renoise 1.8 Bugreports” Section: http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?showforum=24
Please do !not! contact support or firstname.lastname@example.org to report bugs for the beta releases, but always use this forum. This helps us to organize things…
Speaking of the Alpha Test Team… They do deserve credit for this release. Thanks goes to (in no
particular order) to: Voois, Bantai, It-Alien, Keith303, T.P de Roy, Sato, Pysj, Celsius, Freideuter, Zed and Ledger!
We hope you will enjoy the new version!
On behalf of the whole team:
[taktik] and [pulsar]
First off, I appologise if this shouldn’t go here. Just delete the post if it’s not the appropriate thread.
Now that the courtesies are out of the way; gloves off.
My first reaction to a new Renoise release was ‘ok, this should be interesting’. Then I heard it’s bumped yet another .2 release numbers(or roughly). Now, I don’t mind it all that much. It’s $45, and I’ll let people get away with pretty much anything when the program is this good. Principally, what pisses me off is that it was stated that you pay for a full version (i.e. 1.x - 2.x). The first one, I feel is justified because if I recall correctly more or less the whole program was rewritten. This one, however; not so sure. Ok, that aside.
The new layout looks very good, if a bit alien. I look forward to getting better aquainted with it.
The mixer view I can’t wait to use!
The midi clock slave option, if I understand correctly, enables renoise to be controlled via another sequencer(renoise), which I assume would be a killer idea for live-sets. Sweet. If I understand it correctly.
Ok. One final scratch and bitch. The spectrumview guys. It’s broken. As far as I can tell it aliases, and renders 8khz+ (and probably the lower frequencies as well, though to a lesser extent) useless. You can try this yourselves with a pure sine at high pitch with a slow lfo on pitch. Watch the peak that you can’t hear bounce back and fourth negatively correlated with the actual sound you’re playing. I would really, really like to see this fixed for this release.
Alright for now. Keep up the good work, and if this seems overly negative, it’s not meant to be, but I don’t feel the need to write you a love poem about how good this program is. I paid for and use it.
If you have already downloaded the new version and it looks a bit, well, strange, trash your 1.8 preferences folder and download and install the version again please. Or just load the “_default.xml” theme (or any other theme) in the browser manually.
I don’t understand this. Beta just released and already complaining? Enjoy the new features for a little while first eh? Then complain if you must in one of the proper forums, not in the released topic.
Okay, let me give you some more inside material so you can weigh your opinion in a bit better balanced point of view against it:
The alpha was 1.6 when XML, unlimited Undo/Redo and colour syntaxing was implemented, when the Mixer was added it became 1.7, when Sewen added his recording wish for NE, it became 1.8. With all the other changes it could have been easily released as 2.0 as well.
Just the summary math (all details of this summary can be browsed on the new manual which will be linked from the backstage pages soon):
39 new additions (in detail),
20 updates (features that got extended),
This is all over one year of work.
Some of the additions were really very hard (including the audio recorder and the undo/redo) and it’s all done by only one person.
Taktik, i was, i think meaning the alpha blending? on the interface, it makes renoise look Clean!
i didnt really notice the something strange with the colors of the pattern editors, it was all black, but now i understand why, i put my own theme on pretty quick, an it simply makes me very very happy!
yes Sir i have!
an now i can finish a bunch of stuff!!!
this mixer looks Great!
im thinking the instructions would take care of the blank looking area in the sampler area.
Exellent done, the view preset buttons were for some reason my fav this time, hehe.
I liked the line in feature, perhaps that will be able to record to a sample in the future? Oh, and in addition to the “start”-button for the recording in the sample editor, why not make it record on “play song”? Or is that already possible and I just didn’t notice?
Cheers, this was a really great surprise to see this late in the evening for me!