► Renoise 3 Beta testing starts - announcing Redux

[alexbarbed (loft electronics)]

@TheBellows

And why do everyone keep saying Renoise is no DAW? It’s digital, it’s a workstation and i don’t know about you, but i certainly use it for audio production.

quite right, I guess I was just being lazy trying distinguish a tracker from a… er… DAW.

[Luke]

@TheBellows

And why do everyone keep saying Renoise is no DAW? It’s digital, it’s a workstation and i don’t know about you, but i certainly use it for audio production.

Protracker was also digital and it also was a workstation. Was it a DAW ?

[vincentvc (woponep)]

stuff i wrote down i wanted for christmas (a post i never posted)

• synth-style instruments (seperate envelopes and filters for each slot) CHECK
• more dsps CHECK
• more sync-possibilities not really but w/e
• bigger patterns meh
• midi-fx phrase editor makes up for this big time (now we only need multiple phrases in one instrument, and being able to switch with pattern commands… HABA HABA … u cant do that right?)
• and maybe some sort of graphic-ui-api. the reason i wrote this one down was because i wanted detachable windows and resizable ones… so CHECK for me

in other words i got nearly everything i wanted from this release
im having a blast with this releaseeee lots of fun - not sure where the negative vibe is coming from, don’t really think this topic is the place either.

[James_Britt (James Britt / Neurogami)]

@taktik

Please let’s talk about such things in “Help and Support”, then others with the same problem can find such info more easily.

Good idea. I’m going see what I can do to get things right and make notes of my experience and if I have anything to report I’ll do it under the “Help and Support” section.

[dblue]

@vincentvc

now we only need multiple phrases in one instrument, and being able to switch with pattern commands…

You can map a different phrase to every single note on the keyboard range if you really want to. Simply play around a bit more with the editor and you’ll discover this.

Hint: You can drag the edges to resize the yellow phrase blocks positioned above the piano keyboard. Once you’ve made some empty space, just double click the empty space to create a new phrase there (or check the context menu for more options).

[lala_die_kontoleiche (shr)]

@vincentvc

midi-fx phrase editor makes up for this big time (now we only need multiple phrases in one instrument, and being able to switch with pattern commands… HABA HABA … u cant do that right?)

You can. Also see here at usage question: http://forum.renoise.com/index.php?/topic/39632-phrase-editor-usage-q-bug-and-suggestion/
Or at Sense/Net’s recent status update.

Edit: Including me there have today been 4 people not getting how to create Phrase 2 after clicking the create phrase button. Maybe the developers should add some sort of visual hint. Like writing the label Phrase 1 more clearly onto the zone block (font with all pixels black?) or starting with two empty phrases.

[jvanmatre (Mixtapes for Girls)]

Christmas came early!!

[lw_pss]

Guys, can anybody share Renoise 3 logo with me? I want to use it for our local Renoise community design.

[novemberist]

So can anybody tell me if LV2 is supported or not? It’s really a critical buying criterion for me right now…

[vvoois (vV)]

@novemberist

So can anybody tell me if LV2 is supported or not? It’s really a critical buying criterion for me right now…

No it’s not, sorry.

[PBF]

Great job devs! FX per sample, phrases, macros />

Absolutely beautiful.

Any chance duplex will work soon?

[servous]

I haven’t been able to play around as much as I’d like to with the new version, but from what I have seen and read so far I’m really excited. Especially the phrases and instrument DSPs.

And regarding the UI changes, I just have to get used to it. It took me some time to find the Groove Settings for example.

But once the final version is out I guess the manual gets a little update too.

Anyhow, great stuff! Thanks

[vincentvc (woponep)]

@dblue

You can map a different phrase to every single note on the keyboard range if you really want to. Simply play around a bit more with the editor and you’ll discover this.

Hint: You can drag the edges to resize the yellow phrase blocks positioned above the piano keyboard. Once you’ve made some empty space, just double click the empty space to create a new phrase there (or check the context menu for more options).

oh i see now thats what taktik meant with 120 phrases one per key, i was a bit confused… thanks
this is stupidly badass haha

[TheBellows]

@Luke

Protracker was also digital and it also was a workstation. Was it a DAW ?

I’d say yes and no.
Technically in my understanding a DAW is only a digital setup for producing audio. You need a soundcard, monitors and some type of software to record and mix audio and you have a DAW.

Just because you can’t do everything Pro Tools can doesn’t mean it’s not a DAW. Maybe i’m wrong, but if Pro Tools is a DAW then what exactly is the difference between a DAW and Renoise? The over expensive bundled hardware i don’t really need?
I can’t see anywhere a description says a DAW has to have a horizontal tracks.

If Renoise is not a DAW then why would i need one?

I’ve tried a few different softwares like Cubase, Fruity Loops, Pro Tools, Audity and Reason(Reason to kill yourself i’d rather call it ), but i’d choose Renoise even if we were still on 1.6.
Call me a fanboy if you want, to me it’s just that tracking is much more fun.

[kolacell]

hmmm can someone explain to me whats the advantage of those macros and doofer? i didnt get it so far. what are these tools doing what renoise 2.8.2 wasnt capable of? phrases are easy to use and a funny thing…but why arent there more patterns for the phrases…do i always have to create a new instrument with a new phrase pattern for a change? and i would be really thankful to know from the devs why internal midi routing isnt yet supported as this is a VERY important feature?!

[mherdad]

I’m in love.

[lowkey]

Perfect />

Cant wait to see what Autechre does with this.

Redux with Reaper will be alot of fun

[Jonas (Djeroek)]

@kolacell

…but why arent there more patterns for the phrases…do i always have to create a new instrument with a new phrase pattern for a change?

a few posts up from this:

@kolacell

oh i see now thats what taktik meant with 120 phrases one per key, i was a bit confused… thanks />
this is stupidly badass haha

@kolacell

You can map a different phrase to every single note on the keyboard range if you really want to. Simply play around a bit more with the editor and you’ll discover this.

Hint: You can drag the edges to resize the yellow phrase blocks positioned above the piano keyboard. Once you’ve made some empty space, just double click the empty space to create a new phrase there (or check the context menu for more options).

@kolacell

You can. Also see here at usage question: http://forum.renoise.com/index.php?/topic/39632-phrase-editor-usage-q-bug-and-suggestion/
Or at Sense/Net’s recent status update.

Edit: Including me there have today been 4 people not getting how to create Phrase 2 after clicking the create phrase button. /> Maybe the developers should add some sort of visual hint. Like writing the label Phrase 1 more clearly onto the zone block (font with all pixels black?) or starting with two empty phrases.

[Sense_Net]

@TheBellows

Reason(Reason to kill yourself i’d rather call it />/>/> )

You just reminded me of something I had completely forgotten about. In 2004 a friend and I split a Reason 2.5 license. I bought a power-user 500 page guide book to it, an Oxygen 8 to control it with, and had a new soundcard and I was really pumped. Two weeks later I had it deleted off of my computer and was back to FL Studio and Buzz. I know this is off topic, but my mind was blown just now remembering that dumb time after not thinking of it for nearly a decade. I agree with your statement.

[kolacell]

i promise you, this is the end for renoise!