► Renoise 3 Beta testing starts - announcing Redux

diggin v3, features and l&f. thank you guys!

Great Release Devs, Im never going to get my Christmas shopping done now.

Couldn’t agree more, Renoise was already Awesome now its more Awesome.

Has anyone figured out is it possible to map pitchbend for currently selected instrument pitchbending, aftertouch to some mod amount, etc with the new sampler?

After having a play, I can confirm that overall it is solid.

This finally feels like its own product now, and not ‘just’ a mega-charged version of Soundtracker (all good things, and no criticism here in any part)

No, and where are ‘Song Settings’, including the song swing - groove sliders?

Song settings: Options → Playback and compatibility options and View → Pattern Highlight settings
Groove sliders: DSP area of the master track.

Looks fantastic. I’m so glad that Renoise is still Renoise. The Redux solution is smart - it means that if we really want a piano roll, we can use one that already exists and does that well already. I’m intrigued to see how Redux will work… will it take the effects with it? If so, I guess Redux is Renoise-as-VST basically. Renoise without the tracking. It seems like an intelligent and graceful solution, so the devs can keep working on what’s important about Renoise, rather than trying to turn it into Ableton. Which would have been depressing and horrible. Merry Christmas, great stuff. I’ll miss the thread though. xxx.

UPDATE: now I’ve actually downloaded and fired it up… have you people who are critical seen what they’ve done here…? Have you seen that instrument editor? It… is…
P H E N O M E N A L. And on LINUX too. Ridiculous.

What piano roll?

The one that appears when you click on the small ’ piano icon’

You are being Piano Trolled.

Sorry to say, there is no such feature.

i was just trolling a bit there…

Is it possible to modulate fx parameters in instrument fx chains without macros. Or from another point of view: is it possible to use the instrument’s editor modulation pane to modulate fx parameters ? Right now it seems that only vol,pan,filter,etc. can be modulated.

Doofers are awesome!

the only thing i would appreciate though is to have dry/wet there, can you add that via macro ?

Can some clever person explain the phrases feature please and in what way it might enhance the possibilities?

oooooh, so that’s why the phrase editor isn’t another “bar” button, like keyzones/waveform/modulation/effects …it’s global to the whole instrument, makes sense!

+1 I WANT THIS FEATURE :D/>/> :D/>/>

If i understand correctly, phrases are like the “template mode” in impulse tracker, except dynamic…ie instead of pasting note data in the pattern, you can change the phrase itself at any time…if that sort of makes sense.

It’s a phrase arpeggiator. Say you have a tricky little riff, and you want to trigger it up and down the keyboard… and combined with the live quantized input, you could do that live so it will always stay in time with your track. And if you set its scale too, then it won’t sound funny when you move from one key to another. Errr… and I’m guessing that some tracks in it can just keep their original settings (so the drums won’t change key) but others will, so it can work like a Yamaha QY70 arranger sort of thing. I’m sort of guessing now. And to compound my guessing, I suppose that if the timing of the phrase was, say, seven beats, you could have patterns in one time signature looping over patterns of another time signature… I’ll test that out…

Like a few others here I was initially a bit underwhelmed by this release. I think the jump from 2.8 to 3.0 led me to expect that at least one or two of the more popular feature requests - MIDI capable VSTs, more modularity, audio tracks and the ever-controversial piano roll - had been implemented.
On closer inspection, though, this looks like a very good release. The instrument improvements are massive, I much prefer the new GUI, all the new additions seem to add something worthwhile and I get the impression that a lot has happened under the hood that will pave the way for even more improvements during the 3.x cycle.
I also really like the idea of Redux - sort of like Mulab and the MUX. I’d really like to get more Renoise into my Reaper projects and this sounds like the solution. Hope it’s not too cheeky to hope for a crossgrade discount for existing Renoise license holders.

Yeah, I barely consider myself a Renoise user and don’t have much of a feature request - which is why I didn’t even open it up in the speculation thread.
In my wet dreams, I’d like to do everything in Renoise, but I just can’t give up on a few Buzz machines (I’m the live synth tweaker kind - sampled instruments are just not my cup of tea).
So, no badass modular synths in 3 - fine, i can live with that.

Hey, but I like the new GUI so far. Tabs, finally!!!

Need to test that beast further :wink:

LX

The dry/wet thing is something I’d like to see for all devices. This suggestion was made already some years ago.
E.g. Reaper provides that, and it’s great for parallel processing of all kind

Ah I found it: with the meta macro device it’s possible to automate fx chains.

Though, I think it would be great and much more logical, if I could edit the automation envelopes inside the instrument editor directly. This would enable completely closed instruments without dependency to track automation lane. The buttons to activate envelopes are also visible in instrument editor, but only macro asssignment seems to be possible.
I really would like to see those cool graphical representation of the modulation for all parameters, not only vol,pan,etc…

Still no vst audio/midi routings?!?. C’mon guys :(. This is sad Christmas for me. I guess its time to move on and jump to Reaper bandwagon.