OS 3.3.0 beta can be downloaded, includes win7 and 64bit support.
On the plugin you can choose between the audio outputs on the Virus hardware, or your soundcard.
I am gonna ask it again:
Is there anybody here who uses the VirusControl plugin within Renoise without any problems. And can you use the usb and the hardware outputs?
If yes, can you please tell me what your settings are?
Thanks!
No. I’ve given up VC now. I’m using the old school midi way. Works fine for me… As long as it’s impossibe to map the controllers in a pain-less way I’m not gonna try VC again…
Thanks for your comments! I think I’ll be moving to midi over usb, and use VC only for patch management, and make some music instead of tweaking my pc.
Sounds like a good idea…
I’ve noticed the midi- device and controllers work on the VirusControl in the same way as it works when you control the Virus only by midi. Maybe you could use the Viruscontrol plugin and use the midi device instead of the automation device?
The only thing that just doesn’t work right now is the analog outputs, that sucks. I’m using the usb outputs in renoise right, it costs me an output on my soundcard, but it works fine.
Results with the new R2.5b1 + VC Plug with OS 3.3.0 beta:
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Static buffers must be ON.(If not --> LAG about 200 ms)
I seriously doubt if this Plugin is designed to use static buffers. -
Out of sync some times. About 80% of the time is in Sync.
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There are LAG/DELAY in sound coming from VCPlug ( about 90 ms). This is the major problem when using this Plugin, we cannot record the notes in real time and.
No lag in other Hosts like Logic, Live, StudioOne.
Lag in EnergyXT, MuLAb.
4.Rendering a song cause sound problems in the exported file (clicks, pops,etc…).
- AU version not allow routing and much more problems than VST.
I think that the problems are coming form the statics buffers, any one can confirm if the VCPlug is designed to use static buffers?
I tried Presonus Studio One (unsupported host by Access) with this plugin and works perfect. How is possible?
I hoped they would be able to get the virus running with the static buffers enabled, but it looks like this won’t be possible.
Does the virus, beside of the massive lag of around 200ms, work without problems with static buffers OFF? Then I’ve got one last idea on how to get this solved.
I’d like to try out this idea, but unfortunately we haven’t got our Virus yet. Would one of you guys test this for me the? Preferably one on Windows who could test the VST version.
Please let me know here if someone is interested, and then try to sort out the details by mail…
Results with Static Buffers OFF–>
Windows7 32bit :
Lag about 200 ms
Sound quality (Internal FX, Arpegiator, etc…) OK (No click, No pops…)
Syncro with PDC: some times when i start playing goes out of sync with Lag (like a contrabass), seems PDC cant compensate the 200 ms plugin lag very well.
Synco without PDC: LAG like a contrabass.
Then i tested the same in OSX and the results are identical.
UPDATE: arpegio notes go out of sync in all cases (with SB OFF).
Sample out of Sync
I’m very interested to sort this out.
my test subject is a Virus Polar.
dispite some things I have found fooling around with 1.5b1 I’m planning a more serious bughunt tomorrow.
(also to the Korg legancy grab bug)
This sounds almost as bad as the situation before TIOS 3.x and Renoise 2.1.
On my ancient Athlon 1900+ system with Windows XP SP3, Renoise 2.5b1 works as good as the previous version. No strange drop-outs and it runs in sync even with my external MIDI stuff. I still need to enable the Static Buffers though.
My TI Keys has firmware 3.3.0(beta) and is connected through a separate USB controller.
inside your computer or an external USB module attached to your computer?
And what speed? 2.0 or 1.1?
With Static buffer On The sync is normally good, but the problem is the 90ms of LAG.
I can’t record in real time.
This situation is identical in my iMAC and my PC. In other hosts in the same computers without any LAG.
You can see this LAG in this attached image.
Can you guys do the same and post here?, load a blank project with a VCPlug instance and go PDC info.
@vV: it is a cheap PCI card with 4 USB 2.0 ports.
@jeruro: Try enabling ‘Live’ mode in VC. When disabled I also get latencies of 90ms, enabled around 17ms (17.41ms to be exact).
With Live Mode i got 17ms in PDC Info, but the noticeable LAG continues in about 90ms of LAG.
You can check this if you load a sample in another slot, then play virus and the sample instrument.
I read on the access forums that the virus itself isn’t 2.0, it is 1.1.
I use it on it’s own usb hub, but can’t get it working properly. When i’m starting with a song it always seems to stay in sync, but after a while it goes in and out of sync all the time.
Just installed the new TOS 3.3.4 x64, but it didn’t get any better.
Btw. Why does this topic title says fixed?
Cheers.
TOS 4 available soon.
[think positive mode on]
Any chance to get in touch with Access to get it working with Renoise?
Third post from me in a row, I realy got a problem don’t I?
I just wanted to say that I plugged my Virus on it’s own usb hub on my motherboard. On the other usb hub I only had a midi interface and my mouse. I thought that this would be the same as having a extra usb pci card, because it had it’s own hub anway.
Yesterday I installed a cheap usb pci card in my computer and connected the virus to that card, the performance of the virus improved a lot! It’s timing is still not tight enough, but even the arpeggiator looks in sync most of the time.
Sad enough the Viruscontrol plugin in Renoise is still stable enough for use, but the usb card definitely is a must have! I hope this problem still has the attention of the developers, a virus ti is getting in more and more studio’s so it’s worth the effort.
Thanks for your time.
A USB hub is something you should never use for these purposes at all, that works for printers and memory sticks maybe, but not for time critical stuff. The onboard USB bridge usually is faster, because it is cloaser to the chipset and on the current mainboards is always USB V2.0 (whereas a USB hub can sometimes be still v1.1 compatible which has lousy transfer rates)
It sounds like the Virus really needs a PCI controller of itself to get tighter if i read your hardware experiment:it definately proves that this ain’t just only a software problem in particular.
Considering the price of a Virus, i would perhaps even expect a PCI express interface to come with it instead of some sloppy USB interface.