I have been using Buzz for many years too and i like the freedom it has but the reason why i changed it to renoise is stability. Buzz itself is not the problem but the (native) plugins you use in it. There is hundreds of plugins and you need to find out which ones are stable and which are not. Even worst, same plugin may work on yours but not for your friends comp. And i got sick of that every time i opened a saved song, i didn’t know if it was corrupted by bad plugin or not.
so many buzz fans there lately.
maybe its the fact that oskari is working on it again.
and as im nursing my buzz- folder daily i can tell you there are some really nice new features/machines.
every music-software has its own gem.
better ask such question to google.
Not sure if it has changed since the last time I used Buzz.
But:
Buzz vs. Renoise
Pro Buzz:
Buzz has a fairly good “arranger” that would be nice to have in Renoise or something similar.
To be honest it’s a bit stupid to duplicate patterns just because you want to change one track in it.
Then again it’s not a huge deal but would be good to have.
In Buzz you can route effects easily and it’s easy to see in an overview what is going to do.
Cons Buzz:
MIDI-support, g-d damn it was bad in Buzz (when I used it), it was up to each instrument if it supported MIDI or not, who came up with that idea ?
Controling external gear, not funny.
Crashes, bad sample editor, ugly (sorry 
), instruments and effects changed sound depending on version.
I remember a reverb that had a lovely “hang/release” of the sounds, the next version it was gone.
Due to errors or not, it was not funny when the sound you created was not the same anymore.
Of course I didn’t check that before I got rid of the old version of the effects (who knew).
I’m a happy camper with Renosie.
Some new features would be great, arranger, nibbles 
and so forth but overall I find that Renoise is so much more mature than Buzz.
I like that it’s a program you have to pay for (if you register of course), I also like the affordable price.
Wait few year and all Renoise users will use Buzz
You forget about one thing:Renoise will do a lot more than today in a few years, most likely it does enough to keep all Renoise users happy.
you can use all your favorite (unstable) Buzz machines in Renoise too:
https://forum.renoise.com/t/using-buzz-instruments-and-effects-in-renoise/24185
i’ve been using ft2 in the 90s, then switched to buzz. what i love about it is the two dimensional song order.
now i work on renoise for almost 5 years and must say it was really pleasant to go back to stable environment.
Today there are sooooo many VST plugs (free or commercial) so there is no reason to use the native buzz plugs… which was not the situation when Buzz started off…
I think the major difference appart from the obvious feature difference is that Renoise is a commercial software where you can expect support and bug will get solved. Buzz on the other hand is for free but has not been developed for 8-9(?) years and now Oskari just started to develop some new features but only he and God knows if that will continue of we will have another silent period. I’m not complaining - but it’s different. I see no reason not using both. A good craftsman can have use for more than one tool in his toolbox…
the buzz clone …‘Buze’ works like a charm …( no crashes etc…)
It’s just the worklow…which I can’t really get a hold on …I’ll stick to renoise thank you
I could never get Buzz… such a strange interface. The ONLY thing that made sense was the effect routing.
I gave Buzz an honest chance some years ago, but Skale won the fight back then.
I love Buzz. The fact that it was so unstable made me move on to Renoise. Of course it was mostly the faulty Buzz Machines causing the trouble, but I remember the VST support wasn’t really good back then either. I never regretted making this step back in 2005, Renoise offers everything I need. Still… Buzz was awesome, esspecially the modular routing stuff.
yeah that modular routing stuff looks really appealing. might check buzz out
It was one of the few things i liked about Buzz, also the strange way of arranging your songs, took a while to get the hang, but the instability deprived my complete motivation, specially since the user-boards that went about Buzz were full of bug-complaints. You read that right: not reports but complaints because various bugs seem to remain in buzz for ages and if it were not for Buzz, the plugin developer got ranted for his mistake or not fixing an incompatability problem due to a Buzz update.
That kind of attitude is not what i wished for in a community and i’m not really interested in trying Buzz again simply because i don’t want to have loads of captain obvious answers in return (not all unfriendly but being called a noob in a beginners forum is not really something that sounds inviting).
Thanks everyone for your kind answers.
You don’ t have to
http://batman.no/buze/
stable enough
Buzztard for linux …fancy looking interface 
http://www.buzztard.org/index.php/Main_Page
This topic is ridiculous. I’m using Renoise since 2005, same with Buzz. I haven’t wrote a single complete track with Buzz. Why? I got pissed off by sequencer & pattern editor. But it was in the past, now the new Buzz is being developed and it is … very promising. There are differencies between these two programs, of course but please notice that Buzz were abandonn for at least 10 years.
New Buzz 2008 has:
- New, flexible pattern editor (it’s based on peer technology which means it can be connected with ANY machine and can control ANY parameter of it, more over, it is great for programming multiple machines at one time in one pattern view. And after that, patterns prepared in that way can be set in sequencer)
- Audiotracks (machine developed by BTD, it has ability to load, edit and sequence waves in pattern view then pattern can be set in sequencer where the waveshape is displayed)
- Freeze (a freezer can be inserted into the dsp chain and it renders signal into wave which is kept in memory so cpu power is saved.)
- Great VST/i support. Renoise is ok in this field but Polac’s loader is jsut awesome.
So why I’m still using renoise? Honestly I still can’t get used to the sequencer and pattern editor - Pattern XP is great but it lacks “play note” option which i’m strongly used to. But I think I’ll take a closer look to Buzz when I’ll have a preamp for my guitar.
Also the CPU load differ in Buzz and Renoise. RNS is way more heavier. I think it’s due to graphics but also the routing system I found inefficient. However, Renoise is still a way to go.
edit: I forgot to add that stability problems got solved - now if machine crashes it doesn’t hang Buzz. It is signed as “crashed” so you can fix it or delete. Same is with missing machines - if you don’t have one of machines used in song you want to load it is signed as “missed”. In old Buzz you had to have every machine used in song and if one of machines crashed the whole program or even a system were unstable or got freezed.
This has been done 4 days ago. You can see how rapid the development is 
Visit Jeskola.net and Buzzchurch.com for more info
wow i didnt know they were developing buzz again
its by far the best music software
it was only the constant crashes that made me turn to renoise
yay! ill have to try it out