I’m surprised to have just heard of this software and it looks cool as hell, I’m well keen to learn it and see what the tracker style of workflow brings.
I’m new here so would just like to say hello and give a bit of a background before I ask about this, in part to show I understand routing/software etc. Also worried my first post seems a bit negative it’s just that it’s an important feature to me and I’m wondering if it’s ever going to be implemented.
Have been making music for years now, but have never used a tracker and would love to get into it. I’ve used and am competent with all the standard DAWs like Cubase, Reason, Ableton etc.
I also love analog gear. I’ve got 2 Doepfer Dark Energy synths, Korg MS-20 mini, Vermona Perfourmer, MFB 522 Drum Machine, A-100 Modular System with various weird and wonderful modules. This is all hooked up to a mixer which has various inserts and sends hooked up, e.g. moogerfooger, Big Muff etc. Some of the patching we do is insane, like routing audio from the PC, through the MS-20, which is being modulated at the same time by a dark energy riff going through a wave shaper module which is being modulated by an lfo module which is… you get the idea
From reading old forum posts and trying the Renoise demo, the mixer seems to work differently to anything I’ve ever encountered. Some of the posts seemed to overcomplicate this so I’ma gonna keep it simple.
Example, in non-tracker type DAW e.g. ableton:
Drum track > compressor as insert > reverb send. I adjust the track’s volume in the mixer and the amount of returned reverb changes relative to it. The amount of compression on the drum stays the same. A I can stick as many insert fx into the track as I like, safe in the knowledge if I want to lower or raise the track volume the overall track will just be louder/quiter with the send following suit.
Example, in Renoise (Pre):
Drum track > compressor as insert > reverb send. With pre, like above, I adjust the track’s volume in the mixer and the amount of returned reverb changes relative to it. The amount of compression on the drum changes though. B If I decide to lower my drum track’s volume in the mixer, less compression is applied the more I lower it.
Example, in Renoise (Post):
Drum track > compressor as insert > reverb send. This time with post, I adjust the track’s volume in the mixer and the amount of returned reverb stays the same. The amount of compression on the drum stays the same. C
So above in bold are results A, B and C.
From my experience, pretty much everyone mixes using method A. I always have, my friends always have and anyone I follow on the net does.
But it doesn’t seem to be possible in Renoise, apart from using workarounds which dont allow adjusting of the mixer fader (rendering it pointless). And/or you need to start using more inserts and routing (seems unnecessary).
My question then, is, do the Renoise devs have any plans of implementing A? It really is an industry standard feature, missing from an otherwise awesome bit of software.