Sending midi to the VSTi and VST fx at the same time?

Hello and happy new year!

So, i have a track which controls a vst instrument. At the same time there’s a vst fx on that track which needs to receive the same midi data(midi triggers specifically). So far i’ve figured only way: to create an Alias of that vst fx and send a duplicate of the midi data to it. Is there a way to avoid this? Thanks!

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NO this can’t be done , you can’t have a vst instrument + a vst effect alias in the same instrument container .
But you can have a renoise instrument + vst effect alias in the same container
I have been in the exact same scenario
Using a vst instrument + a filter vst fx alias ( Cytomic the drop ) which need the same input data to trigger the filter’s envelope
.The only workaroud is to duplicate ttracks and use the fx alias as a new instrument

I asked for this feature but can’t find the topic anymore

Found the topic , needless to say … a lot of people didn’t even understand what I was asking for :slight_smile:

Yeah, i love how the tracks and instruments are independent, feels flexible, but at the same time it’s limiting in this kind of situation…all is needed is some sort of midi tool which would duplicate the midi data and send it to a different instrument, i wish i could code, it shouldn’t be that hard probably…

This can be done with a midi loopback program, on a mac it is IAC Bus. Under midi tab of the sending track you have to set “Latency” to little more than negative version of your audio device latency in audio settings. There is a limit to this setting, and probably won’t be perfect, but it’s something until you finalize something and can then record quantized to the plugins own track.

this video I made for routing midi from from VSTs back into renoise should be applicable here. Set the output device in the midi tab to your LoopMidi bus and set the input in your alias to the same LoopMidi bus.

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Damn! I should’ve imagined. Currently I think LoopMidi is the only alternative.