The envelope and it's quirks

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any news regarding this topic? :stuck_out_tongue:

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Maybe already in workz may not - we do not know this but I have trust it might be in work for us.

chekk TopTen tread if you bord and wanna contribute sumething.

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contribute to whole mess -ayyy? :smiley:

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Here’s another bump
It is great that we have tension curves , but the otjher issues are still present , in all envelopes modes .
As soon as there is a slight attack fade in ( 5ms ) the modulation amount is lowered .

I really want to bring this under the attention again .
It’ so frustrating when using a short attack -decay time (in combi) and a full mulitplier amount .
The maximum stage is never reached , the decay or attack stage needs be to be longer
This is ot just for the filter (also ringmod etc…) it’s an envelope issue and really hope it gets fixed


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Is there any news on this , it’s so frustrating that a small attack stage f…cks up the initial level ( it can even be as low as just moving the fader without any decimal changes )
Just give us some acccurate attack stages that have no problem with small values ,pretty please
They really deserve it because some of the filters still sound verry good

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Noticed some unexpected behavior trying to do a very snappy (fast decay) pitch envelope the other day. Analog synth drum type stuff. Is that whats being described here too? I’m always loathe to use a vst over native but the natove modulation always sounded steppy in comparison.


the issue can generally be obviated by adding a small hold stage to the AHDSR envelope.

Another option is to use two envelopes, with the second having a hold stage roughly equal to or slightly longer than the attack stage of the first.

Workarounds, to be sure, but allows for full scale short time value envelopes

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The issue occurs when there is a also small attack stage involved , it lowers the intial level
When there is no attack stage involved and only an instant decay , inital level stays intact.
What the rendered envelope shows you is exactly what happens

Ahah OK! User error in my case then. Must have got my unipolar/bipolar mixed up and was overshooting. Thanks for clarifying.