[edit: my original description for this idea sucked. What I am wishing for here is the ability to import video files in a qt wrapper into renoise, then trigger them just like I would be able to a wav or aif sample within renoise’s pattern editor]
I thought my post was self-explanatory… I guess not:
Let us use video clips as samples, allow us to treat the audio of the clips just like we can audio samples… tempo sync, pitch adjust, tuning…
Edit: to be more concise:
I’d say this would be an attractive feature in renoise that would help make it stand out… a tool nobody else has that could yield results that are completely different from anything you could create in any other application or suite of applications without spending a hell of a lot of time on it.
I like the video, but it’s just a sample based track made with video clips. Don’t you think watching a series of repeated half second video segments would lose it’s novelty eventually? Or is there something beyond this that I’m not seeing?
I edited some of my posts here to make the idea a little more clear. I had the abstract idea in my mind that kutiman videos are/were typically highly successful because they’re technically fresh… the same could have been said about “autotune” when it started gaining massive popularity. Until a tool existed that allowed you to do such a thing the sound had never been heard. Imagine a song made from the audio from within video clips that worked in the end as a tight audio/video piece?
I was feeling somewhere inside my wild brainstorm that it could be a next-big-thing as outside of sony vegas there are not many applications out there that blur the lines between a DAW and and NLE. … so this idea could be a game changer, would have been a better choice of words and closer to what I meant than auto-tune killer.
This idea has been in the air for quite a while, to make a video tracker which handles video files just as it does audio.
I wonder if the dev team entertains such idea, at least for the future.
I think this could really break new grounds and set Renoise apart as a truly pioneering DAW.
If you search the forums you will find several topics suggesting this and some of these topics link to a topic where one of the Devs gives his 5 cents for the idea.
I’m not going to link but suggest you try the search feature.
In short this was the answer:
There are free VST solutions out there that work fine. Use those or another solution (ReWire, PureData linked OSC scripting or similar).
Renoise is for music production, not video mixing.
A related question is still a really good one though: what video editors are really awesome, usable, maybe partly keyboard controllable like Renoise is?
I’ve tried launching all them linux apps on AVLinux distro but ehh yeah,… no. It’s not really there yet imho. LIVEs? I have no idea where I’m gonna click to make it start outputting video at any rate, and there’s only 2 buttons. Used kdenlive for some very easy things and might work, would it not crash at random. For the plastic bakje video I used Openshot and well it works well for creating these simple youtube vids but it’s far from “user friendly”.
So does anyone here do video production and if so what’s your app(s)?
What makes you think he means VJing? Renoise is keyboard controllable but is designed for producing music more than playing live. What’s wrong with hoping for the same with video editing software?
Maybe cas can clarify… LiVES is aimed around VJing, and the only one I’ve even tinkered with a little (as it is light enough on the CPU to load on an eeepc, even if the screen doesn’t have high enough resolution to display the whole program.) I did do some reading back then and can maybe pull out some article and websites if I try again, although I was specifically looking for VJing and not video editing. Not sure if many will really go into how keyboard friendly and configurable they are…
I assume you know this site? Although graphics orientated it does cover video stuff as well (and a small amount of audio.) http://libregraphicsworld.org
I didn’t know what he meant. Nothing is wrong with hoping for the same with video editing software. If in that case, Final Cut for example should suffice. I don’t know others that are keyboard friendly. I’ve seen editing suits where the editor has color mapped his keyboard for Final Cut but that was years ago. I don’t know what changes were made since then.
I don’t know for certain, as he does mention KDenLive I think more likely actual editing. LiVES does bits of both from what I understand… (Not sure you could really say either amazing well but I didn’t get deep enough into it and it is developed by a single person and has support for a variety of plugins so expandability might be good but isn’t an area I investigated.) Shame there’s not something like Resolume for Linux!
Afraid I think you’ll find the desire here is for native Linux software… But he does ask the question very openly so don’t let me suspicions stop people from making good recommendations outside of this.
Hope you find it interesting/helpful. Mainly I was aiming it as Cas as a site on FOSS/Linux graphical and video software based articles. Maybe still something to appeal to you though.
Cinelerra seems to have fairly extensive keyboard shortcuts.
[details=“Click to view contents”] 24 Keyboard shortcuts
Alex Ferrer started summarizing most of the keyboard shortcuts. Most of the keys work without
any modifier like SHIFT or CTRL. Most windows can be closed with a CTRL-w. Most operations
can be cancelled with ESC and accepted with RET.
24.1 Program window shortcuts
24.1.1 Editing Media shortcuts
SHIFT Z Re-Do
SHIFT Space Paste Silence
m Mute region
a Select all
SHIFT + click When done over an edit causes the highlighted selection to extend to the
cursor position. When done over the boundary of an effect causes the trim
operation to apply to one effect.
e Toggle between Drag-and-Drop and Cut-and-Paste editing modes
24.1.2 Editing Labels and In/Out Points shortcuts
[ Toggle In point
] Toggle Out point
l Toggle label at current position
CTRL CTRL -> Go to Next Label
24.1.3 Navigation shortcuts
Right arrow Move the timeline right (not the insertion point) *
Left arrow Move the timeline left (not the insertion point) *
Up arrow Zoom time out *
Down arrow Zoom time in *
CTRL Up Expand current curve amplitude
CTRL Dn Shrink current curve amplitude
CTRL Alt Up Expand all curve amplitude
Ctrl Alt Dn Shrink all curve amplitude
Alt Up Expand curve amplitude
Alt Dn Shrink curve amplitude
f Fit time displayed to selection
Alt f Make the range of all the automation types. Fit the maximum and minimum
range of the current highlighted selection
Ctrl Alt f Make the range of the currently selected automation type fit the maximum
and minimum range of the current highlighted selection
Alt Left Move the insertion point left one edit
Alt Right Move the insertion point right one edit
Page Up Move the timeline up *
Page Dn Move the timeline down *
Ctrl Page Up Expand track height
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Ctrl Page Dn Shrink track height
Home Move insertion point to beginning of timeline *
End Move insertion point to end of timeline *
You may have to click on the timeline to deactivate any text boxes or tumblers before these
24.1.4 File operations shortcuts
n New project
o Load Files
s Save Project
SHIFT R Render
SHIFT P Preferences
SHIFT B Batch Render
SHIFT F Set Format
24.1.5 Key frame editing shortcuts
SHIFT X Cut keyframes
SHIFT C Copy keyframes
SHIFT V Paste keyframes
SHIFT Del Clear keyframes
Alt c Copy default keyframe
Alt v Paste default keyframe
24.1.6 Track Manipulation shortcuts
t Add Audio Track
u Insert default Audio Transition
SHIFT T Add Video Track
SHIFT U Insert Default Video Transition
d Delete last Track
SHIFT L Loop playback
TAB Toggle single track arming status
SHIFT-TAB Toggle every other track’s arming status
24.1.7 What is drawn on the timeline shortcuts
1 Show titles
2 Show transitions
3 Fade keyframes
4 Mute keyframes
5 Mode keyframes
6 Pan keyframes
7 Camera keyframes
8 Projector keyframes
9 Plugin keyframes
0 Mask keyframes
= Projector Zoom
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24.2 Viewer and compositor windows shortcuts
[ Toggle In point
] Toggle Out point
l Toggle label at current position
Ctrl Ctrl -> Go to Next Label
Home Go to beginning
End Go to end
SHIFT Z Re-Do
24.3 Playback transport shortcuts
Transport controls work in any window which has a playback transport. They are accessed
through the number pad with num lock disabled.
4 Frame back 5 Reverse Slow 6 Reverse + Reverse Fast
2 Forward Slow 3 Play Enter Fast Forward
SPACE is normal Play, Hitting any key twice is Pause.
Hitting any transport control with CTRL down causes only the region between the in/out
points to be played, if in/out points are defined.
24.4 Record window shortcuts
Space Start and pause recording of the current batch
l Toggle label at current position [/details]